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How many of you guys have read George Orwells book 1984, and how relavent do you think it is to the world today?
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Well, let's see . . .
We have to give up our freedoms in order to save them.
We've entered into a perpetual war in order to secure the peace.
We're cutting back on public education, health care and other critical public services in order to give tax breaks to the ultrawealthy so that we may have prosperity. -
Well said.Freedom Doesn't March.
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Plus those wacky young neo-Conservatives are going around promoting abstinence as the only acceptable means of contraception in high schools... perhaps the beginnings of the Anti-Sex League?"lol internet" ~ AAHZComment
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political correctness is the start of 'new speak'.
Anti-Smoking Lobbies, Anti-Alchol lobbies, Anti-drugs lobbies etc are the new ways to slowly enforce prohibition.
The working class isincreasingly segregated into ocuncil estates, trailer parks etc.
MTV is the ultimate mind control system for todays youth.
My advice is to live on an island robinson crusoe style.eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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Maybe the World will more and more develop into a mix of 1984 and "Brave new World" (from Aldous Huxley)Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"Comment
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recently it has been looking like 1984, but the general trend is still towards a BNW type scenario - unless there are more large scale terrorist attacks.
if you look at aspects of society, they are rapidly approaching BNW. Genetic engineering, prozac, even modern pop culture in general. Advertising, music, movies etc etc made to be quick thrills and compulsive buying, lots of young people are completely losing touch with the past. Old things are always seen as worse than new things. We are only a few steps away from feelies, human cloning, soma holidays. Although it might never be on the same scale as BNW, it doesn't seem to be that far away.Comment
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Fight it!!Plus those wacky young neo-Conservatives are going around promoting abstinence as the only acceptable means of contraception in high schools... perhaps the beginnings of the Anti-Sex League?
Dont take 1984 literally, especially since it was written 60 odd years ago. Metaphorically, its stands as valid as ever. Indeed the book I'm currently writing owes much of its conceptual content to 1984, although I'm going in at a somewhat more philosophical/idealistic angle."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
"You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:Comment
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Where is Albert Speers's screaming baby saying "Why did I click on that lin?" pic when you need it?American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
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Originally posted by Soul Survivor
recently it has been looking like 1984, but the general trend is still towards a BNW type scenario - unless there are more large scale terrorist attacks.
if you look at aspects of society, they are rapidly approaching BNW. Genetic engineering, prozac, even modern pop culture in general. Advertising, music, movies etc etc made to be quick thrills and compulsive buying, lots of young people are completely losing touch with the past. Old things are always seen as worse than new things. We are only a few steps away from feelies, human cloning, soma holidays. Although it might never be on the same scale as BNW, it doesn't seem to be that far away.
There is nothing new about the above, Plato was describing this sort of society in 'Republic' when Socrates was telling everyone what a 'Democracy' is like.
With a society like this, it is inevitable that an intellectual backlash to it comes about.eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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The dancing baby from the intro of Ally BcMeal is from the demo animations in 3DSMax. They came standard with every licensed copy of 3DSMax.
Did the show license that? Gosh, I sure hope so.-30-Comment
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Originally posted by st_swithin
The dancing baby from the intro of Ally BcMeal is from the demo animations in 3DSMax. They came standard with every licensed copy of 3DSMax.
Did the show license that? Gosh, I sure hope so.
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I rest my case.-30-Comment
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Notice how we even have the revisions of history, regimes that were friendly allies in the past suddenly become hated harbingers of terror, and the military/financial or technical assistance previously provided to them by us is suddenly no longer fit for serious consideration in any contemporary discussion regarding the current evilness of said regime.
Here's some Neo-NewSpeak translations, I'm sure not all of you will agree with them.
Stable government : A government that we can do business with that is secure.
Terrorists : Paramilitaries with whome we disagree.
Freedom-Fighter : Paramilitaries with whome we agree.
Bloodless war : A bloody conflict where no western troops were harmed.
Market Forces : Financial Forces.
Free Press : Media organisations controlled by market forces.
Freedom : A fuzzy word that sounds nice and can be used in various circumstances to convince people to support all sorts of things.
Democracy : Government that can easily be influenced by market forces.
Crisis of Democracy : When the majority of a population develops an active interest in politics.
The Enemies of Freedom : A fuzzy term that sounds scary and can be used in various circumstances to convince people to support all sorts of things.
The Loony Left/Communists/Fringe Groups/Fanatics : People who don't buy the propaganda prepared for them, or debate under the approved assumptions.
Conspiracy Theorists : People who beleive that conspiracy organizations [such as the CIA] engage in conspiracies.
Mainstream Politics : The arena of approved political debate, where correct assumptions are never questioned.
Military Intervention : Military invasion to intervene into a situation where said military was not previously present.
Worlds Policeman : An imperial power still in the closet about being an empire that must nonetheless carry out imperial actions and cast them in a positive light.
Liberals : Harmless idiots whose sensitive souls nonetheless mewl within the terms of approved assumtions. The nice cop.
The Right : Hard nosed realists who are fair minded but do not tolerate fools gladly. The bad cop.
Political Correctness : A set of demands by irrational factions that have taken over our society and whose ridiculous influence must be beaten back by all right-minded folk.
I may post others later.Last edited by problem_child; September 8, 2003, 10:59.Freedom Doesn't March.
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