The problem with Socialism

[Pekka]

Sure, problem is I don't know how to write, and I think you're not professional screenwriter or writer either . But we can always dream.

If I was a business man and knew those things, I'd already have my own porn productions, making this movie and book happening, have my own weapons design company AND experience travelling company. Now that I look at it, damn I'm pretty evil man. Porn, guns...

[mindseye]

Originally posted by Che Gueverra
Haagen-Daaz

Haagen Daz is an American product. The founder made up the name, hoping it would sound Scandinavian. Guess the strategy worked.

[Pekka]

Except Daaz is not Scandinavinan at all. Maybe Dutch? Only Americans thinks is sounds like Scandinavian . Nah, it sounds a bit I admit, if someone said it was Scandinavian, I'd believe it.

[Bereta_Eder]

Pekka,
Actually I could give it a shot, would have to be in Greek though (other can translate it for the international markets ) Would need your permission though (since you thought it up ) and lots of info about Finland

Erm, there's also the problem of me becoming blonde and blue eyed or you becoming dark haired and brown eyed! But we could make the main characters reach some middle ground in apperance from the beggining.
Lol... this could actually be fun, and God knows I have lots of spare time But to write you have to relate and I don't think I can do it without having actually lived in Finland. I could do it for Belgium though, where I've actually lived for a good chunk of my life. Now if I could only find the tenacity to follow it through Of course all rights and profits would be divided equally

[Pekka]

Sure, write if you want to, no problem. Just promise me if you make it, you'll take me with you . When you sell the movie rights and the script, you'll be taking me with you as your working partner . Feel free..

I don't think it's a good idea to bring Finland to it though. Take some other country.. maybe that Belgium? But are Greece and Belgium really that different? Well I bet they are different enough.. just do a lot of groundwork on things, so you have lots to work on and you can choose the best things you then write about, it shouldn't be too fictional about what are customs in other countries etc...
Profits are not divided equally if you write it naturally, you see, I'm not that socialist . You work for it, you earn what you get.. but when you start working for the movie, get me into the production too..

[Pekka]

If you are succesful about making interesting story, and some director or folks are interested (I trust it would be euro movie), then I bet you could actually get EU support for it, because naturally it's kind of a cultural film . I wish you success, keep me posted if you start doing it, or if you run out of ideas, I'll be pleased to help you with it.

[Bereta_Eder]

Sure, write if you want to, no problem. Just promise me if you make it, you'll take me with you . When you sell the movie rights and the script, you'll be taking me with you as your working partner . Feel free..

I don't think it's a good idea to bring Finland to it though. Take some other country.. maybe that Belgium? But are Greece and Belgium really that different? Well I bet they are different enough.. just do a lot of groundwork on things, so you have lots to work on and you can choose the best things you then write about, it shouldn't be too fictional about what are customs in other countries etc...
Profits are not divided equally if you write it naturally, you see, I'm not that socialist . You work for it, you earn what you get.. but when you start working for the movie, get me into the production too..

Pekka,
It's a deal

Argh, but youre right, Greece and Belgium are not so hugely different... To achieve maximum contrast it would have to be between two EU countries that have the most "distance" between them as possible.
A problem which presents two possible solutions:

1) Finding out as much as possible about Finland and then try to fake it

2)Compromise on the "distance" issue and go for Belgium and Greece.

Guess, I'll have to get back to you about that. Must think it through

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Pekka
If you are succesful about making interesting story, and some director or folks are interested (I trust it would be euro movie), then I bet you could actually get EU support for it, because naturally it's kind of a cultural film . I wish you success, keep me posted if you start doing it, or if you run out of ideas, I'll be pleased to help you with it.

Will do

OK, got to go now. Got to think it though Of course we'll keep in touch.

[Pekka]

Yeah just think it through.. there are many options, and I think many of them would work. Finland is completely different, sure, but I think it wouldn't be that interesting for someone to read/watch, because they don't know anything about Finland to begin with. Either they would love it, because they see something completely different, or they would not like it so much, because they don't get it. But if you decide to take Finland as the other country, you can always mail me and ask anything and I'll provide you inside information and try to explain them so they seem authentic. And you can use other Finns too, they always are happy to answer because they love it when someone takes an interest to our country. But every scene is bound to be another Aki Kaurismäki moment, no one speaking to you etc The guy would get pretty lonely here! he could even live in the countryside! Oh my God!! He would literally not get to know ANYONE and be miserable . Then give him some sketchy job the other dude did, like a farmer or some other sick job. Or dark city life. What ever, everything is possible. Think of the options.. they are almost endless, and if you get them right, then you can't fail.

[Kitschum]

paiktis22: Sure, think about it. The doors will always be open for our fellow Europeans...

Originally posted by Pekka
Except Daaz is not Scandinavinan at all. Maybe Dutch? Only Americans thinks is sounds like Scandinavian . Nah, it sounds a bit I admit, if someone said it was Scandinavian, I'd believe it.

Not many z in Scandinavian languages though. I heard Häagen was an adaption of Copenhagen. Except of course the city's name in Danish is København.

Good luck on the script or book both of you! I'm going to sleep.

[Pekka]

Me too. Sleepy time. Later.

[Odin]

My anscestors came from SE Norway (dad's side) and old Prussia, near Dresden (mom's side). I have always wanted to se my relaives in Norway (Seljset, Selseth in the states), and Germany (Schnachschieder). I really want to live in Oslo.

[DanS]

Häagen-dazs is American!

And so is Saab (GM) and Volvo (Ford), strictly speaking. I'm guessing American institutional investors own a lot of Nokia too...

The way that Scandinavia and Finland compete is by spending a large portion of their econonomies on product R&D. God help them if they have to compete on price.

But since Nokia represents such a large proportion of Finland's economy, for instane, if Nokia gets hit by commodity competition, then Finland is toast. Like a much worse version of California at present.

[Serb]

Pekka,
What a sad story dude.
It's too bad that you're living in such screwed society, but I know how to help you. We will help you man, trust us.
I think we should invade Finland at once and bring a real socialism there.
When we'll withdraw after a coule of years ( decades? centuries!!!) you'll be never whining about your modern system again.

[David Floyd]

Just watch out for Finnish ski troops