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All the really snowy bits of europe people just seem to have normal cars and stick snow chains on them in the winter.
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Originally posted by Smiley
OK, now why do you need not one but 2 SUVs?
One for me and one for my wife. Our schedules do not allow for us to drive to work together. And since it's less than 7 miles, gas isn't really an issue. It would be difficult for me to tell my wife that one of us deserves the safety and not the other.
I don't know what everyone's problem with it is. It's not like they're hummers or other huge SUVs. And they're a heck of a lot safer than minivans or the old family stationwagons.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
Yep, i've had rear wd, front wd and 4wd and 4wd is much much better on snow and other bad conditions. And to the lower mpg. My neighbor drives into the city in his higher mpg car. We bought a smaller more expensive house nearer to work. He uses more gas than I do. Just who is conserving better? You must look at the situation and not just spew generalizations.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Disclaimer: the following comment is about people in the UK who drive SUV's and don't need to because they never go off road and we don't get much snow.
Until a couple of years ago I had to drive quite a lot for work and whenever it snowed or got a bit icy on the roads the incompetent morons in their Suzuki and Daihatsu 4x4's always ended up going slower than people in ordinary cars and building up traffic queues. Why?
There are a number of smaller people carrier vehicles sold in the UK, like the Citroen Berlingo, that actually have more internal space than a SUV, cost half the price, use half the petrol and aren't any uglier. In Europe they sell and in the UK we still buy 4x4's despite our high petrol costs. Are UK motorists really that stupid?
Originally posted by rah
You must look at the situation and not just spew generalizations.
Sorry, I thought this was Apolyton.
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy. We've got both kinds
I have always driven a 4x4, and prior to the truck I had a Suburban.
I like the hauling capacity. This comes in very handy when I was in college. I like the 4x4 aspect too, as going up to Tahoe in the winter can be scary and my wife doesn't like to hike, so I can camp off of jeep trails.
I generally only use it for mountain trips (of which there are many) and to get to and from work (10 miles). My wife has a little 6 cylinder which we take everywhere else.
Originally posted by rah
I don't know what everyone's problem with it is. It's not like they're hummers or other huge SUVs. And they're a heck of a lot safer than minivans or the old family stationwagons.
They're gas guzzlers and they endanger everyone else on the road. I.e. they are completely anti-social. While I understand your safety concerns, I have to interject that there are other people on the road - like myself sometimes. And on the rare occassions when I do rent a car to drive out of the city I don't want to have to rent a @#$%ing SUV (and pay for the increased gas usage) just to make my saftey equal out with yours. People like you encourge the race to the bottom.
BTW, mini-vans are safer than SUVs because they don't roll over anywhere near as easily. Minivans have a proper center of gravity AND are more durable than SUVs. If safety is really your primary concern, why don't you own two minivans instead?
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Minivans on snow have no clearence and if you touch your brakes, you're toast.
If you don't drive like an idiot, SUVs aren't the tip-over danger that they're made out to be. The two models that we have rated very low on the list.
As to saftey of everyone one the road, I'll give up my suv when all other suvs, minivans, regular vans, pickup trucks, RVs, semi's, and cars hauling trailers are removed also. Why are you picking on SUV and not all the other culprits?
If you choose to not protect yourself as much as I try to protect my wife and daughter, THAT"S YOUR DECISION. and not my concern. I would prefer not to have to rush to the hospital to see if my wife survived again.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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So, since you don't want to others can't? Communist sociopath.
I am not going to argue the "gas" thing, as I know they do, but it is our choice and not yours what we choose to buy... Welcome to the free market economy.
Yet, I do agree that SUVs can be dangerous to others on the road. I think that all SUVs should require a truck class liscence, and those vehicles which seat more than 5 people (any vehicle) should require a different class of liscence, maybe whatever a limo driver has to get.
Why? Stupid soccer mom, people not paying attention, the size, stopping distance, and length of the vehicle which is ussually has tinted windos which reduces visability, cell phones, and screaming kids make for an unpleasant and unattentive driver... who, by-the-way is driving a Sherman Tank...
What about semi's, regular vans, trucks, etc? THey're no different. As long as they're on the road, I want a little protection.
And last time I checked, I haven't killed anybody on the road, so that arguement has no validity with me.
If you choose to drive a regular car that you're saying is more dangerous, that's your choice.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
Originally posted by rah
Minivans on snow have no clearence and if you touch your brakes, you're toast.
If you don't drive like an idiot, SUVs aren't the tip-over danger that they're made out to be. The two models that we have rated very low on the list.
I've got a friend (since high school) who now works in auto insurance up here in New York. He gave up his Jeep Cherokee when he and his wife had their kid for a minivan. According to him, minivans are far safer even in snow than SUVs. (Of course, this is mostly from a statitical perspective ...)
As to saftey of everyone one the road, I'll give up my suv when all other suvs, minivans, regular vans, pickup trucks, RVs, semi's, and cars hauling trailers are removed also. Why are you picking on SUV and not all the other culprits?
I'd just as soon ban all non-commmercial non-cars from public roads. In fact, I'd just as soon tear down public roads and let everyone use mass transit. Even Amtrak is safer than driving.
If you choose to not protect yourself as much as I try to protect my wife and daughter, THAT"S YOUR DECISION. and not my concern. I would prefer not to have to rush to the hospital to see if my wife survived again.
I can sympathize. But, this does not diminish your anti-social behavior - your "as long as me and mine are safe, screw everyone else" mentality.
- "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
- I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
- "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming
I don't care what anybody else thinks, the safety of my family is more important to me.
Unfortunately, that increased safety comes at the cost of decreased safety for everyone else's families, especially those who end up under an SUV's frame or axel in what should be a bumper-to-bumper collision.
Do you also have those extra-bright lights mounted at car-driver's eyeball level? Those can increase the SUV driver's safety, too. Who cares about anyone else or their families. They can "DEAL WITH IT".
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