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Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes. -
england will never surrender to brussels
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"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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It provides common rules for extradition, but that is just one aspect of the Acquis in that area.Originally posted by Saras
We (as well as probably everyone) already extradite to US and Russian and a bunch of other places, and have bilateral treaties etc. EU takes it just one small step further, no?“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Yes, the nation state sucked up all authority to a central level. We are now seeing a reversal, in a way it's a return to a multilevel system of local, regional, national, supranational and international systems.Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
it seems to me that the EU, whatever it is, may represent a future organizational model.
The EU is a new federal system that is less centralized than the classic federal state, but goes beyond the confederation. To some extent similar models have been there before, the Deutscher Bund from 1815-1866, or the US before the civil war. They became nation states eventually, but I don't see that road for the EU.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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One has to play Europa Universalis for just a little time to see that there is no way, on a realistic diffuculty level, that Germany, France and UK can be one nation-stateOriginally posted by HershOstropoler
The EU is a new federal system that is less centralized than the classic federal state, but goes beyond the confederation. To some extent similar models have been there before, the Deutscher Bund from 1815-1866, or the US before the civil war. They became nation states eventually, but I don't see that road for the EU.
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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Yeah, but we'd need time travel for that.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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I think the EU will have to go through what we went through 140 years ago in order to form a Nation. Our Civil War forged a Nation out of an alliance of States. Europe will need to undergo just some cataclismic event in order to truly unite it. I don't forsee that happening any time soon as I see no major regional division of interests or philosophies that would trigger a civil war.
The one possible cause for a civil war would be one or more of the states going communist.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Many would consider this situation as a solid ground to unite, but for Ned it is an obstacle.Originally posted by Ned
I see no major regional division of interests or philosophies that would trigger a civil war.
Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.Comment
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Exactly why wouldn't the Balkan states join? AFAIK Slovenia and Croatia already have candidate status (not sure about Bosnia or Macedonia).Comment
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Kramerman:
Actually, together with Max Weber and Emile Durkheim, he is the person whose theories we most saw in our sociology course... And I happen to know in other countries there is also a strong attention for Marx' theories. The details and final conclusions of his theory may be wrong or inaccurate, but the basic insights on which he builds them are still valid now. For example conflict sociology, or the insight that economics influence culture and politics.
he was an idiot... any contemporary sociologist can tell you how flawed his 'theories' were
Ned:
I agree. Therefore I suggest the USA to declare war on the EU, so we can kick your but and unite in the process.Europe will need to undergo just some cataclismic event in order to truly unite it.
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The EU is best seen as an intermediate step. Sure, it is bringing economic union, a large degree of legal and border policing co-operation but not political union. The problem is that the national politicians in all the major EU countries don't want to give up the pretence of having some power so they will desperately hang on to foreign policy.
Within the next 10-15 years there will not be a single EU state. In the longer term demographic and economic pressures may well make the present, generally socialist, policies unsustainable (= unaffordable) and a new political approach, possibly a new pan-national political party taking power in several countries could bring change leading to a true single state.Never give an AI an even break.Comment
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Intermediate and original; this was never done before.Originally posted by CerberusIV
The EU is best seen as an intermediate step.
One can expect that there will be crisis important enough to make all Europeans feel they have something to protect; this would help building a serious rapid deployment force, and formulate the beginning of a common foreign policy.
For instance, we have small pieces of land all over the world, populated by french citizens, and most with present or future strategic value; Europeans will have to decide if they back the French in the defense of this territories.Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.Comment
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Dance puppet! Dance!Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Define "country".
What is the latest SCOTUS case law on sovereignty of US states? For the EU, I suggest you read McCormick, Questioning Sovereignty.
As for those who define the EU as a "trade area", get a basic text book about EU law. Then you may have a clue what you are talking about.
And "nation" is an outdated concept.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I like dancing on your ignorance.
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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A nation or State.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Define "country".
Why don't we summarize it here rather than giving out homework assignments while I'm on summer break, Teach?For the EU, I suggest you read McCormick, Questioning Sovereignty.
Outmoded by what?And "nation" is an outdated concept.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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