Another Senseless Act of Bigotry

[Q Classic]

can i hear an amen to that?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Half of Illinois, Indiana and Ohio was ours anyway, to some degree.

Had a delusional spell, didn't ya?

But in all seriousness, note the key word -- WAS.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Spoken like a true radical fundie! IIRC the Roman Ctholic Church officially gave it's recognition to evolutionary theory over a decade ago, so you are by logical conclusion, implying that Catholics aren't Christian. Ahhhhh, that reminds me of the good old days when I was 8 and had just moved down south. I was shocked that so many of my (predominantly fundamentalist) classmates disapproved of the election of John Kennedy to the presidency because they believed, as you, that Catholics couldn't rally be considered Christians.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most other Christians don't consider Catholics to be true Christians. Frankly, I don't consider Catholicism to be truly representative of Christianity, anyways. The church proved long ago that getting into heaven simply required large donations to the church. The Catholic church has been corrupt and defunked for centuries before they started sheltering child rapists. Even still, it's more about praising church leaders than praying to God. And look at the obscene luxury that the Pope lives in.

The ground rules for Christianity are simple. Accept the Bible, God, and Jesus Christ. If you don't do this, you aren't a true Christian. But being a true Christian isn't exactly a good thing.

So be proud that you are a hypocrit Doc... it's better than being an ignorant, brainwashed fundie.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sava
Sorry to burst your bubble, but most other Christians don't consider Catholics to be true Christians. Frankly, I don't consider Catholicism to be truly representative of Christianity, anyways. The church proved long ago that getting into heaven simply required large donations to the church. The Catholic church has been corrupt and defunked for centuries before they started sheltering child rapists. Even still, it's more about praising church leaders than praying to God. And look at the obscene luxury that the Pope lives in.

Sounds like you're talking about the abuses that the Catholic Church carried out before its counter-reformations in the early modern era, and not that of today's Catholic Church.

With maybe the exception of the Pope living in luxury and pedophilia.

[Sava]

Originally posted by MrFun


Sounds like you're talking about the abuses that the Catholic Church carried out before its counter-reformations in the early modern era, and not that of today's Catholic Church.

Does the modern era include turning a blind eye to Fascism in WW2?

With maybe the exception of the Pope living in luxury and pedophilia.

I'm not saying Catholics themselves aren't good people or faithful, I'm saying the church is corrupt and not representative of the values in the Bible.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Sava
Sorry to burst your bubble, but most other Christians don't consider Catholics to be true Christians. Frankly, I don't consider Catholicism to be truly representative of Christianity, anyways. The church proved long ago that getting into heaven simply required large donations to the church. The Catholic church has been corrupt and defunked for centuries before they started sheltering child rapists. Even still, it's more about praising church leaders than praying to God. And look at the obscene luxury that the Pope lives in.

The ground rules for Christianity are simple. Accept the Bible, God, and Jesus Christ. If you don't do this, you aren't a true Christian. But being a true Christian isn't exactly a good thing.

So be proud that you are a hypocrit Doc... it's better than being an ignorant, brainwashed fundie.

Well, this is just so much...what's the word I'm looking for?...bollocks? Yes, that'll do nicely.

Let me get this straight: Catholicism's around for about a thousand years -- it IS Western Christianity -- before the Protestants decide to break from it, and now the Catholics aren't really Christian? I suppose the same goes for the various Orthodox churches? Only the Protestants are real Christians, and we know this because we've been told it ... by the Protestants? I don't think so.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sava
Does the modern era include turning a blind eye to Fascism in WW2?
I'm not saying Catholics themselves aren't good people or faithful, I'm saying the church is corrupt and not representative of the values in the Bible.

Got news for ya -- not all Catholic clergy turned their backs to those suffering persecution during World War II. Yes, the official policy of the Catholic Church may have been to turn away, but not all Catholic priests, nuns, and monks followed this policy -- they had a stronger sense of human decency.


But as long as you're not lumping all Catholics together . . . oh wait, you did with your statement regarding World War II.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
Does the modern era include turning a blind eye to Fascism in WW2?

It's amazing how often this falsehood crops up.

[Sava]

Let me get this straight: Catholicism's around for about a thousand years -- it IS Western Christianity -- before the Protestants decide to break from it, and now the Catholics aren't really Christian? I suppose the same goes for the various Orthodox churches? Only the Protestants are real Christians, and we know this because we've been told it ... by the Protestants? I don't think so.

If something has been corrupt and misrepresentative for a thousand years, the time of existence is irrelevant. And no, I did not say Protestants are real Christians... I'm speaking solely about the Catholic church...

MrFUN: I am speaking of the CHURCH institution... not the members. Learn to read.

You guys are both misinterpreting what I am saying. A true Christian accepts the Bible, God, and Jesus as truth. Anyone who doesn't (regardless of denomination) isn't a TRUE Christian, but a hypocrit.

[Sava]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
It's amazing how often this falsehood crops up.

Are you going to offer any points or just unsubstantiated denials?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
Are you going to offer any points or just unsubstantiated denials?

I could but you wouldn't listen. So what's the point.

[Sava]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I could but you wouldn't listen. So what's the point.

I might surprise you.

[MrFun]

I guess Sava didn't want to listen to my last post, either.

[Japher]

A true Christian accepts the Bible, God, and Jesus as truth. Anyone who doesn't (regardless of denomination) isn't a TRUE Christian, but a hypocrit.

I agree. At least for anyone that continues to practice and has gone through comfirmation. Just listen to the Lord's Prayer...

Also, what is the oath a Catholic takes to become a Preist... Faith is faith, and if they say the believe in and follow the Bible, except the parts the don't like, the are hypocrits... IMO, though, that makes most Christians hypocrits as they continue to reinterpret the text as they see fit... The "word' of god my ass.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
the real question

Is it good for the Jews?

Why is it the real question? Who cares about the Jews? They've got their own problems without meddling in other people's religious affairs.

Why is it assumed that we must care about what the Jews think, as opposed to the Buddhists or Animists or Zoroastrians (three cheers for Ahura Mazda!!)?