Your Favorite President

[Ramo]

1. William Henry Harrison (died a month after taking office)
2. William McKinley (had a good death - by an anarchist)
3. JFK (death contributed to the civil rights revolution that he was too much of a ***** to start)

[Dom Pedro II]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Japan's desire for a large Pacific island empire led to their attack on pearl harbour...

Well, the United States government had a great deal to do with provoking the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. But the naval build up was nothing new... even in the early 1900s, both navies knew it was just a matter of time. Remember, America had her own aspirations in the Pacific as well. The two HAD to collide sooner or later.

But the fact that it was sooner was very carefully orchestrated by the Allies.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The specter of Communism was exactly that... a specter... ironically enough, for all of conservatives' insistance that Communism doesn't work (and it doesn't) they can't ever seem to accept the idea that Communist was what killed Communism.

Only people who ignored history cannot accept the idea that hardline US policies pushed Communism over the edge. It isn't hard to keep a corrupt dictatorship running for years after its economically dead (look at Cambodia, for example). Hardline stances and praising the greatness of liberty helped knock it over.

[Dis]

ahh, but when the U.S. sailed that great white fleet into Japan, Japan realized they were horribly out of date. Not long after, Japan began their military buildup- especially naval buildup

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Dissident
Imran, didn't that naval buildup also lead to Japan attacking the U.S. in pearl harbour?

Japan killed the naval restriction treaty first.

[Winston]

Abraham Lincoln
Theodore Roosevelt
Ronald Reagan

[Sprayber]

Can someone tell me what Kennedy did that was so great.

Lyndon Johnson? I mean damn. Does a condriction in terms calld the Vietnam War pretty much make him the number one bastard of the past 40 years. Or do some of you blame that on Nixon.

[PLATO]

1790-1877 Polk

1878-1945 Garfield

1946-2003 Reagan

[Berzerker]

George Washington

[Dis]

now you guys are just picking silly presidents.

Garfield?

Reagan? Okay I liked reagan. But he wasn't that great.

[Dom Pedro II]

Only people who ignored history cannot accept the idea that hardline US policies pushed Communism over the edge. It isn't hard to keep a corrupt dictatorship running for years after its economically dead (look at Cambodia, for example). Hardline stances and praising the greatness of liberty helped knock it over.

I'll admit that the military build up didn't help, but there were much bigger internal problems aside from that that had much more to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. It hastened the fall slightly, but the end was VERY near.

And Cambodia is a piss poor example... you're talking about a tiny little country of five million people vs. the largest land empire in the world.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Reagan? Okay I liked reagan. But he wasn't that great.

Yes he was

[Sprayber]

Re: Your Favorite President

Originally posted by mrmitchell
1946 - 2003...Here's where it gets tough. I'd say a tie between Kennedy and Clinton. Both of them were very smart people, and both of them had very charismatic personalities. (And, sorry, yes, both of them were probably sexual deviants. So what?)

Ted Bundy had those exact qualities.

[alva]

There's a few simularities between Bundy and Reagen too..

[Odin]

Tom Jefferson: was one of the most progressive people of his day (the Federalists were a bunch of Oligarchic elititsts ) Bought the Louisiana Territory and loved science.

FDR: Got us through the Great Depression by giving the supply-siders the middle finger. Was preparing for inevitible war even when te isolationists were in denial. The most socialist of all our presidents.

Lyndon Johnson: The Great Society, Civil Rights, socialist. I do not know why people get after him for Vietnam, most people, including him, believed in the Domino Effect, which got us mired. Nixon was the one that kept the war going on.

Best overall: FDR