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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sava
    I think Kennedy showed great leadership and had a distinct progressive vision. I would rate him as the second best 1946-2003 president.

    Growing up hearing about Kennedy one would have thought he was some kind of sainted hero. But I'm still wondering what he did. What is that he did besides handling the Cuban missile crisis that has so many people saying he was a great President?


    For the record, I'm not that hot on Reagan either. I don't think he was a terrible president, but I don't exactly consider him great.
    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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    • #62
      He invented the Internet?

      Wait that was Al Gore . . .

      no wait, that wasn't him, either.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #63
        Clinton.
        Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
        Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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        • #64
          Worst:

          1790-1877 Buchanan - sat around while the country got more and more riled up for war

          1878-1945 Wilson - an ultra-racist, even for his era (even worse than TR), who was so damned idealist he wouldn't compromise with the Congress, which eventually led to his pet project (League of Nations) being derailed.

          1946-2003 Kennedy - a worthless President who blundered his way around and talked tough... almost like a Democrat George W... Kennedy even cut taxes!
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #65
            I think one point people forget about Reagan is that he had to follow Carter; his accomplishments are much more remarkable when viewed in that context.
            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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            • #66
              Reagan is one of the worst in my view, due to his negligence in the early days of the AIDS crisis, when some researchers already had strong theories on how the disease was spreading.
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #67
                Kennedy was great dammit!

                He takes more credit winning the cold war than Reagan dammit!!

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                • #68
                  Mr.Fun: Who would have ever thought you'd be a one issue voter?
                  Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; August 7, 2003, 13:49.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #69
                    1790 - 1877
                    Thomas Jefferson (because he did everything)

                    1878 - 1945
                    Chester A. Arthur (because he did nothing)

                    1946 - 2003
                    Harry Truman (because he had balls)
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dissident
                      Kennedy was great dammit!

                      He takes more credit winning the cold war than Reagan dammit!!
                      I agree. Kennedy did more against the fight against the Soviets in 1 year than Reagan did in a lifetime.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #71
                        Yeah, but I have a hard time voting for Kennedy as many will just assume it's a sympathy vote. Though a vote Kennedy is a vote for Arnold
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Japher
                          Yeah, but I have a hard time voting for Kennedy as many will just assume it's a sympathy vote.
                          I agree, I couldn't vote for him because he didn't finish his presidency.
                          Though a vote Kennedy is a vote for Arnold
                          What? Schwarzenegger? huh? are you daft?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dissident
                            Kennedy was great dammit!

                            He takes more credit winning the cold war than Reagan dammit!!
                            What, for being a total moron who was over his head? Instead of negotiating during the Cuban Missle Crisis taking it to the public (and making it a 'crisis')? By telling Cuban refugees to invade Cuba and then not giving them the air support he promised leading to the slaughter of the Bay of Pigs?

                            How, really, did he win the Cold War when it raged on for over 25 years after he died.

                            Kennedy was only good for one thing... getting shot .
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #74
                              I guess the Reagan-asslicking club has it's own version of revisionist history.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                Mr.Fun: Who would have ever thought you'd be a one issue voter?


                                Sorry I am outraged over Reagan's AIDS crisis policy.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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