Gov't Report Indicts Saudi Royal Family

[The Mad Monk]

The report matters only in that it publicly declares what we already know.

We couldn't release that information until we could move the bases, and we couldn't move the bases until we removed Hussein.

edit: please don't think I'm saying all this just because of this report; I've been writing about this here since before the Iraq war.

[Ted Striker]

where is the report anyway?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
However, this dosen't change the ultimate goal: the fall of the House of Saud, and the reduction or dissolution of Saudi Arabia as a sovereign territory.

I don't think the US is going to change the borders in the region. Otherwise, they'd have given a watchful independance to the Kurds right at the end of the war. I think the US will attempt to keep Saudi Arabia as a single entity, but with a much friendlier regime.

[The Mad Monk]

The US won't have to. The surrounding countries have more than enough reason to annex territory once it collapses -- to prevent the spread of anarchy, among other things.

We don't want another single regime there, even a "friendly" one; it just represents too much power. Remember, the Saudis were supposed to be "friendly".

[rev]

Ted Striker:

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/911rpt/

[Ted Striker]

Thanks rev

[Sava]

we should just nuke them...

[rev]

... but only if the goal is to create MORE terrorists.

[The Mad Monk]

Glass, from sea to shining sea?

Nah.

[Sava]

... but only if the goal is to create MORE terrorists.

bah, if we turn them all into dust, they can't bomb us.

[rev]

And then they'll start training terrorist DUST MITES!

Your sheets will never be safe again!

[Ted Striker]

We need those smilies where they are shooting machine guns and rockets...you know the ones on that angry Muslim site...

[GePap]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Rufus, we're already moving the bases.

And the rationale for that is pro house of Saud. The rationale being that while US troops are in Saudi Arabia, the hard-liners come to see the Saud's as US puppets. By pulling troops out, it gives the Saudss the ability to play to thier home audience, showing them US influence is down, and that the reforms that are to be made are internal changes, not changes pushed by big bad Uncle Sam.

As for your notion that the Us does not want just one regime in saudi arabia..that really comes out of left field: never have I heard anyone anywhere claim that it would be better for the US to break up the Arabian Penninsula. None of the neighboring countries are strong enough to make a grab, or stupid enough either. Saudi Arabia will remain one single unit as is.

[The Mad Monk]

As long as the bases remained in Saudi, they (whichever they you care to mention) knew that the Saudis were secure, because the bases represented de facto support of the regime. Moving against the Saudis with the US presence would be way too expensive for anyone who cared to try.

[The Mad Monk]

You're not listening in the right places, then.