Comrades, Pick me Apart

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Uber KruX
you call them failures?

The real question is: Do you?

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


The real question is: Do you?

in all honesty, i am not well versed enough in the history / current suitations of those nations. hell, i can just barely seperate which flag is which

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
As I showed, that is not true:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist4.htm

I am an atheist, because I lack belief in God. I could never positively assert there is no God, though I am pretty skeptical. But the only alternative (antonym) of Atheist is Theist! I can't be a theist unles I believe in God!

Is "green" black or is it white?
It certainly is not black, so the only alternative (antonym) of black is white!

Therefore, green is a white color.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns


Is "green" black or is it white?
It certainly is not black, so the only alternative (antonym) of black is white!

Therefore, green is a white color.

Is green black or is it non-black?

It certainly is not black, and the only alternative of black is non-black.

Therefore, green is a non-black color.

[Chemical Ollie]

Tassadar, none of those contries ever had real socialism (the case of Norway could be discussed, as most big companies are government owned) Finland and Sweden have always had a capitalist "centre of gravity".

[korn469]

Olaf

well she's not my mother in law yet
but hopefully one day she will be

Anyways I was put on probation for a year and a half, I had to pay a 500 dollar fine + court costs (which could be anywhere from 200 dollars to possibly 3,000 I haven't gotten the bill on them yet) and one of the conditions of my probation (quite possibly the most important one) is to have no contact with her till she turns 18. The judge gave me one last legal oppertunity to contact her; however, I couldn't do that in person (I'm banned from her county), and when I called her phone was disconnected. I haven't heard from her since, and I have no idea what happened. For all I know her parents could have moved across to the country (which would put her about 2000 miles away) and forced her to go with them. I dunno. Once she turns 18 though I'm going to find her, take her away with me (if she wants to go), and ask her to marry me. So it's all good.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You see, if you know about language, you know that A- as a prefix in this context means "without." Theism means belief in God. Atheism is therefore, simply, "without belief in God." If you're uncertain God exists, you do not believe in God, ergo you are without belief in God.

Language has changed and become way more complex nowadays, Boris . Agnostic is now the term used to delinate those who are not sure, while Atheist is the term used to deliniate those who do not believe in God at all.

Anyway, it doesn't matter because Uber is against those people who take a position, no matter what he chooses to call them.

[Chemical Ollie]

Man, that sucks! And everything you did would be fully legal all over Europe (but illegal in US, Middle East and all the other backward nations of the world...

[Odin]

Religious Beliefs

I was raised a Lutheran and had a spout of devoutness and bigotry, but I soon grew up. My hold on religion weakened, especially after 9/11. I am now a Weak Athiest, I do not beleive there is proof of a higher power and I am disgusted by how theists reject evolution.

Politics

I am a Communist. I beilive in the communal ownership of wealth I used to be a Libertarian, but the Enron debacle and 'Poly have shown me the light. I belive in rule by direct democracy or by a benovolent dictator similar to Plato's "philosopher king"

Philosophy

I believe people are born neutral. It is the experiences on has in life that determines if they are good or evil. We are not born greedy, but rampant consumerism, capitalism, and materialism has made us act this way. I do not believe in a single moral code; each person has thier own moral code made by experiences in life and from reciporical altuism.

[Kramerman]

Religion
I have never been a religious person. I was raised a Catholic by my mother (my father was Dutch Reformed Protestant), but I ever really bought into it. I was sent to religion school for several years during my childhood, and I excelled in them. Religion intrigued me but I genuinely did not believe in it. As time moved on, certain events in my life caused me to reach out for something more, and I cried to God every night for nearly two years, in vain. Any chance of me believing in God had vanished during the rocky period of my early teens. As time went on, I began to genuinely loathe the Catholic Church, with its ornamental charade in the name of worship. Six foot golden crucifixes are needed to worship the lord, of course. After that, I began to realize that I didn’t like many of the other religions either, and I turned my hatred into one generalization: Anyone who believes in a religion to such a degree as they would render extreme deeds / die for it, anyone who uses religion to do anything other than maintain a higher moral standard, is a complete and utter idiot, a setback to the sciences and civilization itself.

As for myself, I am an Agnostic.

Being an Atheist is flat out ignorant. I can’t prove there isn’t a God any more than you can prove there is. From personal experience, I seem to be on the pessimist’s side of the fence, but I acknowledge the fact that I am not certain, and my judgment is fallible.

I have recently looked into the East Asian religions, Buddhism, Taoism, etc, but nothing seems to grab me.

Religion had a purpose long ago, and whether the end goal is real or not, it has greatly shaped civilization for the better, as well as caused some of the worst atrocities. Talk about a mixed blessing.

this very closely resembles my life and 'beliefs' with religion

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Language has changed and become way more complex nowadays, Boris . Agnostic is now the term used to delinate those who are not sure, while Atheist is the term used to deliniate those who do not believe in God at all.

Had you read, you'd note that is not true, as most self-described Atheists are of the "do not believe" category, not the "believe does not" category.

Agnostics can be not sure, but they don't have to be. You can have Agnostic Theists, and Agnostic Strong Atheists, or Agnostic Weak Atheists. Agnosticism isn't a metaphysical stance.

[Kramerman]

ive always known the definitions of those words as boris describes them... but semantics, semantics, we all know what Uber was talking about, despite our personal thoughts on the definitions

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kramerman
ive always known the definitions of those words as boris describes them... but semantics, semantics, we all know what Uber was talking about, despite our personal thoughts on the definitions

He said "pick," and I am picking away!

[Imran Siddiqui]

How in the HELL do you have Agnostic Theists? Someone who is not sure but believes in God? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You can be a theist and have some doubts, but if you believe in God (and thus are a theist), you cannot, by definition, by an Agnostic, who does not take a side one way or the other.

[korn469]

Olaf,

Yea, it does suck, I'm out quite a bit of money (relatively speaking), I lost my girl for a while, and even the judge said he could tell I had feelings for her. Though I did get to say in court "I don't think she loves me I know she does, and I know I love her too." Plus that went on the record. But that's how the law works over here, though it could have been MUCH MUCH WORSE, like up to maybe 30 years in prison. So as long as i stay good for a little while everything is cool. If not I head off to jail for a year!