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Jailtime, obviously, Sava....the brutish, barbaric man forced himself on the poor, innocent lil' thing.
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what about men who say no in the middle of sex?Comment
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I remember the case, but as I remember, the Kennedies offered to pay her to shut up, not the other way around.Originally posted by Oerdin
Do any of you remember the farce that was the Kennedy rape case about 10 years ago where another girl had sex with a rich man and then said point blank "Pay me $X or I'll claim you raped me"?
Oh right, famous people never committ rape. MIKE TYSON WAS INNOCENT! 
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Che - The problem with that is that the man's automatically guilty.
They couple is...engaged.
If she says no while they are, then, per your definition, RIGHT THEN, it's rape. It's already too late. The man is guilty (he's still inside her when consent is withdrawn). Guilty. Bang. Done.
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Well, since no one is saying thatOriginally posted by Dissident
I have no problem with a woman saying no before or during sex.
just not after. That's where I have a problem.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Nope...no one is saying that...yet.
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Give it time tho....Comment
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Not if she says, "oh yeah, I have herpes."Now your just being silly
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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That's lame; it's like saying I am going to start driving a car, but then once you get on the road you decide you don't want to any more. So you just stop driving, but you don't stop the car...Comment
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women are evil
that's why I only sleep with prostitutes. Prostitutes can't say no and claim you raped them
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I found this description about the California case. Can't vouch for its accuracy.
In the case that challenged the old rule, a 17-year-old girl, Laura T., had consented to sex with the defendant, John, but then later told him that she needed to go home. While she never explicitly told him to stop, he continued for, "four or five minutes after Laura's first statement and for a minute to 90 seconds after her third and final one" (Cooper, 2003:2). John had apparently told Laura, "Just give me a minute" (Cooper, 2003:2). While this case may not appear to be rape to some, the California Supreme Court has ruled that it was indeed a rape. The Court took into account what was called a "primal urge theory" that could possibly justify a "reasonable time" rule for John's failure to stop. However, the Court later rejected this claim saying that John had been given sufficient time to withdraw and that the law books would not allow for such a claim of "reasonable time" (Cooper, 2003:2). It is important to remember that rape does not occur when a woman simply changes her mind or feels that she has made a bad decision. In this case, John had also grabbed Laura's waist and pushed her down while she was making the statements that she needed to go home.Golfing since 67Comment
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You do not have a right to have sex with any specific person, only a right to have sex in general. Just because a person consents to have sex with you at one time doesn't mean she's consented for all time (as used to be argued and still often is).Originally posted by Japher
So, the consent is to start having sex not to actually finish...
It should be self-evident that you need continuing permision to have sex with someone.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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how was he convicted though?
or did he admit to continueing after she said stop?Comment
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