Euros

[MikeH]

Yeah, sad about those Brits, not all of us though.

[Pekka]

[TRUE EURO]
Well they can have their UK THEN! They are nothing but Americas lapdog anyway.. they only pretend to be European..
[/TRUE EURO]

[laurentius]

Aww f*ck off

[Pekka]

laurentius, I didn't call you TRUE EURO, of you got the idea, well I didn't mean it. I don't see you as a TRUE EURO, but you are living in dangerous dream worlds .

Nah, just messing with you.

GO Britney!

[CerberusIV]

The problem the British have is in forgetting the centuries of assumed cultural superiority they have adopted through giving most of the european countries a good kicking militarily and laughing at what some of them regard as culinary delights, all done without looking in the mirror about what others might think about the British.

It is also worth noting that those military victories were often achieved by the upper class english giving some orders and a bunch of english scum, scotsmen, irishmen and welshmen actually doing the dirty work. If it was really unpleasent they would generally get the welsh to do it!

The real problem now is that the only national politician with the standing and desire to see the UK more involved in europe and drive it forward is Tony Blair. If, as seems likely, he has trashed his trustworthiness in the eyes of the electorate then there is no-one who can and will try to encourage us to be good europeans.

[laurentius]

Yeah, well nice AMERICAN flag you got under your name there Peksu

Dreamworlds? Yeah well just look at my sig.

[Drake Tungsten]

If it was really unpleasent they would generally get the welsh to do it!

Someone had to step up and kill frogs for you pansy English.

[Pekka]

What's wrong with that? I'm proud of Finnish flag too.

[HershOstropoler]

I see Pekka has continued trolling but still hasn't explained what inequality or disunity he is babbling about.

[laurentius]

So why american flag?

[Pekka]

Hershostropoler, read the earlie thread. Link is in the first post of this thread.

laurentius, why not? This is just a show of solidarity and support for the country. Doesn't mean I'm anti-euro.
My parents have lived there, my mom lives there and I frequent there. I have few real life American friends too. So why not? I have had our flag there as well.

[Pekka]

hershostropoler, and about not being unified, well just read few posts back where people talk about British people.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by Big Crunch
I have never really understood the argument for European federalisation. I don't see the need to hand over power to a 'superstate' unless it is beneficial, and I also wonder why so many fear that that is going to happen. If we don't want to sign up to an act of federation then we won't.

but it won't be as simple as that, the government won't present the 'surrender our nation to brussels act' tomorrow or any time soon, it will happen gradually. we'll have things like the new european constitution, nibling away at westminster's power, most people won't consider each little surrender of power as important enough to have much impact on who they vote for nationally, and of course we won't get a chance to vote directly on things like the european constitution. because by and large british people don't want any more european interference in the way their country is run and would vote against things like the constitution.

edit: grammar

[HershOstropoler]

Originally posted by Pekka
Hershostropoler, read the earlie thread. Link is in the first post of this thread.

There it's the same troll and whine over and over again.

Ok, you have no point, no need for me to ask about it.

[Pekka]

hershostropoler, Hmm, and you have been only here to say I'm a troll and I have no points. That would make you with 0 points to this matter as well.

In this thread, at this page, few people have already said, that many folks in UK consider themselves British, and the euro thing is not always that great thing.
So, that counts to unity thing, does it not?