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  • Boris, you are being Fezzified.
    The entire point of these debates is entertainment


    Really? So people star spouting "canon law". Yeah, just like Bible camp arguements are pure delights!

    How can people attempt to derive the powersource of a ISD form what they saw? When did that subject EVER come up in the movies? Or the power ratings of weapons? From the movies al I can see if that if a turbolaser blast hits a fighter half the size of an F-14, all that happens in a small explosion. That blast could not have been that powerfull then. Or take the very opening sequence of the entire film: one small ship being chased by a Star destroyer, with the destroyer firing oevr and over, blasts that just seem to dissipate..how powerfull can they be?

    Now, from Smileys site (again, great site) we can see that a Narn battecruiser is about the size of a ISD. A single shadow ship cut one in half with its main beam weapon. Again, just based on what we see. BUt of course a Shadoq ship can have no effect on a ISD cause "blah, blah blah" technical info you simply CAN NOT accurately figure form simply want you see on screen.
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    • Well, I think I'd 'splode San Diego, just for fun.
      But I'm still hesitating with the DC area
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      • Originally posted by Lonestar

        Of course, the Vong refer to the Star Destroyers as the "Hated Triangle ships".

        Remember, the Vong Ships come apart fairly quickly without those vortex/shields.
        Yep, the Ships are extremly powerful but without their Dovin Basals they are just defenseless large floating Rocks (or Yorik Corals) in Space
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        • Originally posted by Smiley
          Says nothing about power, but does a good job at comparing size: the Starship Dimensions site at www.merzo.net

          I didnt realize a Boeing 747 was so big... It dwarfs a freaking AT-AT

          *back to reality*
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          • i also didnt realize how much larger Godzilla is than King Kong... Kong doesnt stand a chance
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            • Since I could only vote for one, I would like to make it know that would also like to teach N. Korea a lesson, and make a alliance of world into an Intersteller Empire.

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              • edit sorry double post
                Last edited by WRangler Rhymer; July 27, 2003, 20:00.

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                • Originally posted by Spiffor
                  Well, I think I'd 'splode San Diego, just for fun.
                  Okay, not nice.
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                  • No point in comparing firepower based on size of a ship, cause theres this thing called technological advancement. A nuclear missile is the same size as a conventional missile but packs much more punch.

                    Regardless of the technical details though, I'm sure a stardestroyer would be more than capable of carrying out any of the poll choices.
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                    • Originally posted by Smiley
                      No point in comparing firepower based on size of a ship, cause theres this thing called technological advancement. A nuclear missile is the same size as a conventional missile but packs much more punch.

                      Regardless of the technical details though, I'm sure a stardestroyer would be more than capable of carrying out any of the poll choices.
                      I don't think anyone is caluclating the firepower based on the sizes...

                      But, the size of the vessel is indicative of the number of turrets it can have, and the industrial capacity of however built it.
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                      • The point that the site Boris pointed out made was that many of the numbers given for power outputs are just simply astronomically absurd. Finem I understand tech levels are more important to how poweful: the Earth Class Omega destroyers are huge (bigger than an ISD), bigger than a Vorlon Cruiser or a Mimbari cruiser, but the Vorlon and Mimbari ships would decimate the Earth shis, since they are tech-backward, as big as they are. The thing is, since the Vorlons have showed the ability to blow up planets with less space than the Empire (compare the Vorlon planetkiller to the Death Star), I would assume a Vorlon ship of the size of an ISD to be as powerful, perhaps more.

                        I don;t get why the empire goes for lots of turrets and such for small burst: seems very inefficent to me. Why not go with fewer but more powerfull blasts or Beams?

                        I also like about that site that it has Robotech ships: I love Robotech (have all 21 books and the sentinel series), but the "science" in it is trully absurd: yeah, cold fusion derived from a plant (OK....).

                        Still, the Zentraedi fleet would sweep the empire away like so much junk (6 million ships plus baby! 14 billion battlepods at least). Interestingly, no planet killers.
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                        • Each turret has more punch then a Federation Phaser array, so....
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                          • Originally posted by Lonestar
                            Each turret has more punch then a Federation Phaser array, so....



                            You have no way of knowing that, except with all those "techincal guides" that are speaking out of thier asses (which is what the site Boris links to shows).

                            I am sure that a ISD is much more powerful than a galaxy class ship, specially given the relative size of it. But as far as the movies go, those turbolaser seem seriously underpowered: they can't even break down th shileds of some small vessel carrying the princess? And when they hit a fighter-poof.... No, don;t buy it.
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                            • Originally posted by GePap





                              You have no way of knowing that, except with all those "techincal guides" that are speaking out of thier asses (which is what the site Boris links to shows).

                              sd.net has a fairly good Turbolaser commentary section.

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                              • Originally posted by GePap
                                The point that the site Boris pointed out made was that many of the numbers given for power outputs are just simply astronomically absurd. Finem I understand tech levels are more important to how poweful: the Earth Class Omega destroyers are huge (bigger than an ISD), bigger than a Vorlon Cruiser or a Mimbari cruiser, but the Vorlon and Mimbari ships would decimate the Earth shis, since they are tech-backward, as big as they are. The thing is, since the Vorlons have showed the ability to blow up planets with less space than the Empire (compare the Vorlon planetkiller to the Death Star), I would assume a Vorlon ship of the size of an ISD to be as powerful, perhaps more.

                                I don;t get why the empire goes for lots of turrets and such for small burst: seems very inefficent to me. Why not go with fewer but more powerfull blasts or Beams?

                                I also like about that site that it has Robotech ships: I love Robotech (have all 21 books and the sentinel series), but the "science" in it is trully absurd: yeah, cold fusion derived from a plant (OK....).

                                Still, the Zentraedi fleet would sweep the empire away like so much junk (6 million ships plus baby! 14 billion battlepods at least). Interestingly, no planet killers.
                                different technology andusing different means

                                just because the Vorlons are better at blowing up planets, does not mean that they are better at blowing up ships

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