Your Very Own Imperial Stardestroyer

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Lonestar
ST novels...there is no organization. There are nothing!

They've actually started to change that with the recent DS9 novels.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
How's Kyp Durron doing these days? I haven't read a SW book in a long while.

He's a Jedimaster, on the new Jedicouncil. He and Luke had a falling out for awhile (while debating what course of action the Jedi should take against the Yuuzhan Vong, Kyp was in the "Ends justify the means" camp), but reconcilied when a Jedi of the Old Republic (llloooonnngggg story) told Luke that fighting the Yuuzhan Vong was no different from fighting the Empire,so stop pus.syfooting around.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Lonestar
but reconcilied when a Jedi of the Old Republic (llloooonnngggg story)

Old Republic? WTF?

PS Was it Mace Windu?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
They've actually started to change that with the recent DS9 novels.

Yes, but there has been no announcement from Paramount listing them in a similiar fashion as LucasFilm does the EU.

(Mosiac and some other VGR book being the exceptions)

[GePap]

The whole concept of "Canon" is silly: these aren't religions! (or should not be, klingon speakers is too far which is why the Courage skit with the SW nerds was so utterly hillarious).

I care only about the movies and or shows, that is what is fun to discuss: the sillyness of the Q, how badly the idea of the Borg was handled, Imperial incomptence of grand scale, Silly Centauri fashions, why all aliens in ST are people with funny facial extremities, so forth.

[Lonestar]

Incidently, Episode three will have at least One EU Charecter in it.

Spoiler:

Star Wars: Episode III: Both Producer Rick McCallum & Visual Effects Supervisor John Knoll talked with fans on the official site and revealed a few short details. Berman confirmed "Christopher Lee has arrived in Sydney, but he hasn't started shooting yet" whilst there is a character coming from the expanded SW universe (ie. in the novels), but "those scenes won't be shot until early next year, so there hasn't even been any casting yet". Meanwhile Knoll says the Stormtroopers will "still be CGI and they'll be noticably different", there "are currently no plans for a CG Chewbacca" and "Wat Tambor is back and badder than ever". Finally not only will we be seeing more of Coruscant, but there's more planets in this movie than any previous Star Wars film has had. Thanks to 'Kenny'.

[Drake Tungsten]

the Courage skit with the SW nerds was so utterly hillarious).

I love that skit.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Shielded ISDs can park themselves in the core of a star and take no damage.

i dont think so

The sun crusher could do this... an ISD, like anything else with capital ship shielding, could approach a star fairly safely, but if it were to get to close, it might get pulled in by its graivty and fried.

As for unrealism in SW, the only thing utterly unrealistic to me is the Force, and jedi piss me off. Other than that, its 'realism' is little different from any other sci fi universe. In any of em, you will have to suspend disbelief. Why GePap thinks star wars is sooo much more unrealistic is beyond me, if one does not consider the force

Kman

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Lonestar


He's a Jedimaster, on the new Jedicouncil. He and Luke had a falling out for awhile (while debating what course of action the Jedi should take against the Yuuzhan Vong, Kyp was in the "Ends justify the means" camp), but reconcilied when a Jedi of the Old Republic (llloooonnngggg story) told Luke that fighting the Yuuzhan Vong was no different from fighting the Empire,so stop pus.syfooting around.

Oh yeah,
if one thinks an Imperial Stardestroyer ist mighty, he/she will be shocked to see, what one of those Living Ships of the Yuuzhan Vong can do to an ISD

As for Star Wars Humans looking like Earths-Humans, hey, maybe they are considered the true ancestors of the Earth Humans

[:) Smiley]

Says nothing about power, but does a good job at comparing size: the Starship Dimensions site at www.merzo.net

[GePap]

That is an incredible site smiley

Though I shudder to think about the work that went into it.

It also gives a minor illustration of why I do think SW fans are unrelaistic: a regular ISD is big, but smaller than a Shadow Dreadnaught. When the site Boris quotes states how absurdly high the power ratings of B5 weapons which are given are, just imagine, as I said, that the quoted power output of a single battery of turbolasers is supposed to be much greater than that, and we are told a ISD has 144 of them....... A bit of a problem, no?

Which is why I don;t like "canon": the people who made these shows were not physists for the most part, and thye most certainly did not bring the shows out along with complementary schematics, so all technical facts, beyond size (which is ussually given, or can be figured out by comparing relative objects) are generally pure bunk. Which is why I think arguing from what is said is better: fine, include novels and such, but techincal info? Please.

And from what I have seen, the Empire is incompetent as hell Go Teddy Bears!

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST


Oh yeah,
if one thinks an Imperial Stardestroyer ist mighty, he/she will be shocked to see, what one of those Living Ships of the Yuuzhan Vong can do to an ISD

Of course, the Vong refer to the Star Destroyers as the "Hated Triangle ships".

Remember, the Vong Ships come apart fairly quickly without those vortex/shields.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by GePap

Which is why I don;t like "canon": the people who made these shows were not physists for the most part, and thye most certainly did not bring the shows out along with complementary schematics, so all technical facts, beyond size (which is ussually given, or can be figured out by comparing relative objects) are generally pure bunk. Which is why I think arguing from what is said is better: fine, include novels and such, but techincal info? Please.

nothing in the movies of startrek or starwars is at all possible in the laws of physics we know

you guys are arguing about fantasy

(which is ok, but don't be thinking that reality has any place in it)

Jon Miller

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by GePap
It also gives a minor illustration of why I do think SW fans are unrelaistic: a regular ISD is big, but smaller than a Shadow Dreadnaught. When the site Boris quotes states how absurdly high the power ratings of B5 weapons which are given are, just imagine, as I said, that the quoted power output of a single battery of turbolasers is supposed to be much greater than that, and we are told a ISD has 144 of them....... A bit of a problem, no?

Which is why I don;t like "canon": the people who made these shows were not physists for the most part, and thye most certainly did not bring the shows out along with complementary schematics, so all technical facts, beyond size (which is ussually given, or can be figured out by comparing relative objects) are generally pure bunk. Which is why I think arguing from what is said is better: fine, include novels and such, but techincal info? Please.

You just aren't listening, are you? Do you often have these arguments with yourself?

I posted those numbers to show a simple thing, really: ALL SciFi stuff is unrealistic. You're whining about SW being more unrealistic (in your opinion). But that doesn't matter, because they're all unrealistic. The entire point of these debates is entertainment, and once again you make them unfun by crying foul about the very rules of such debates. Deriving technical conclusions from what is seen on the screen is precisely the point of the arguments. Otherwise, there's no basis for any claims of power, strength, size, etc.

Go away if you don't like it.

[Atahualpa]

Where is the "Sell it on ebay" option ?