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**mrmitchell** · July 19, 2003, 00:01

most questions still had answers greater than zylka. thus, everyone is not a mindless zylka-puppet yet. however, i would like to see him try to come up with a list of questions lol

**mrmitchell** · July 19, 2003, 00:03

remember what i said about cruft back when we had the whole chatroom pub quiz? i don't but i thought maybe you did and it might have some relevance to the "ban zylka" thing.

**GePap** · July 19, 2003, 00:08

What a weaird threadjack abot BB's.

Was the BIsmarck the fastest, or the most heavily armored, or best armed BB ever? NO, it was a great 1930's design, but later designs were superior. How the Bismarck would have done against a ship 4 years younger is not a very interesitng question.

BUt Pang's arguement against the Bismarck is silly. For a ship in 1941, the Bismarck was the best BB floating, and it showed itself to be a very respectful ship in its two sip to ship engagements. As for the Tirpitz, it never went out to sea cause the Germans were afraid to use it: not becuase it was in any way deficient.

**Kassiopeia** · July 19, 2003, 00:34

remember what i said about cruft back when we had the whole chatroom pub quiz? i don't but i thought maybe you did and it might have some relevance to the "ban zylka" thing.

No, it hasn't. We aren't going to make this overtly complicated or more difficult or anything. Cruft would be having a poll on the questions before every game to determine by public opinion which questions are viable to be Zylka'd.

Well, unless you consider taking away an inanely easy way to score points making the game too difficult...

**mrmitchell** · July 19, 2003, 00:41

IIRC that was your same opinion before you changed to the jeapordy-style pub quiz

Then again, I'm following more of a simple rule here: The more regulation, the more chance to **** up.

**badams52** · July 19, 2003, 01:43

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
badams, that's what I was thinking about. The only problem with that though would be, how to determine it? Only way I could come up with was that the quiz holder would be given sort of "dictatorial" control, i.e. he could decide all Zylka answers on a question were out of the line and give only the nominal one point even if an overwhelming majority of people went zylka. That'd be a good deterrent not to go zylka, if nothing else.

only thing that would be fair would probably be the quiz holder. Then he'd turn into a referee not unlike those in hockey, basketball or football who always have to make "judgement" calls.

Originally posted by mrmitchell

I'm with Zylka

I'm with Stoned

Hey, you took that quote out of context!

But that gives me an idea...

Just wait till IWS XI

**Boris Godunov** · July 19, 2003, 10:49

Originally posted by Agathon
Great! The Bismarck is disadvantaged by being compared to the situation two years after it was sunk. Of course it could never have been modified to keep up with the pace.

But if we had that rule then the Queen Elizabeth's would be judged on their WWI outfits.

Hey, tough titties. We're comparing the ships as they were, not as they might have been. If we can allow you to assume the Bismarck would have been fitted with better radar, why not allow us to assume the same for the Iowa-class?

Besides, by 1944 German resources were so low that I doubt she would have had such a refit. They couldn't even finish their sole fleet carrier that was in production.

And this is only ONE of the Bismarck's disadvantages. She still has to contend with being slower, less maneuverable, much less armored and having less range.

Tell, me if you're given a choice between being on either of the two ships in a fight to the death, and you'll go down if you're on the loser, would you honestly choose the Bismarck over an Iowa-class? I would have to think you're suicidal if you said yes. Me, I'll happily stay on the ship that can fire accurately on the other without being within in the other ship's firing range. Duh.

**Kassiopeia** · July 19, 2003, 12:16

IIRC that was your same opinion before you changed to the jeapordy-style pub quiz

Perhaps, but the difference is of a, well, different kind. We aren't going to rework the entire system from scratch. We were trying to fix something that wasn't broken (we were switching to an entirely different style of game altogether!), whereas here we definitely have something that is, or is going to be, broken.

only thing that would be fair would probably be the quiz holder. Then he'd turn into a referee not unlike those in hockey, basketball or football who always have to make "judgement" calls.

Yeah. Like we had in the version of the pub quiz we didn't complain about, mrmitchell. A permanent stance to avoid complication is all good and well, but there has to be some. Besides, the pub quiz and IWS are so different competitions anyway that trying to recycle your arguments from before is quite silly.

**Zylka** · July 19, 2003, 13:41

Oh BOO HOO I think we should also ban The Britney and Avril Lavigne! POPULARITY SUCKS!!! It must also suck placing 19th, 31st, and 34th! See ya from the top 5 again next time, menstrual boy!

Az · July 19, 2003, 13:48

Zylka is usually just a default answer.

**Zylka** · July 19, 2003, 13:54

It's like banning "Banana" from polls or "bread" from our cupboards, or "vagina" from sex

You really want that??? DO YOU?!?!?!

**Panag** · July 19, 2003, 13:55

Originally posted by GePap
What a weaird threadjack abot BB's.

Was the BIsmarck the fastest, or the most heavily armored, or best armed BB ever? NO, it was a great 1930's design, but later designs were superior. How the Bismarck would have done against a ship 4 years younger is not a very interesitng question.

BUt Pang's arguement against the Bismarck is silly. For a ship in 1941, the Bismarck was the best BB floating, and it showed itself to be a very respectful ship in its two sip to ship engagements. As for the Tirpitz, it never went out to sea cause the Germans were afraid to use it: not becuase it was in any way deficient.

hi ,

no it was not , the ship was underfunded , poorly trained crew and officers , not build the way it was intended , the left out this and that , etc , .....

see the link on the other page , .....

the us had battle cruisers and "second rate" bb ( they named it like that ) that where by far more superior then the tirpitz class , ......

the geramns where not afraid to use the tirpitz , they had neither the experience or now how to sail with it , and some people in the german hq arrived to the conclusion it was worth zip , thats why they stowed far away from everything , ......

it did sail a couple times against convoys , some wacko's wanted to use it to shore bomb moermansk , .......

anyway , even if you use a ship like that , that aint all , you need support ships , cruisers for reckon , fire control , etc , ..... and those things the germans did not have , .....

have a nice day

**Boris Godunov** · July 19, 2003, 13:55

Here I was hoping Zylka would participate in our battleship argument.

**Zylka** · July 19, 2003, 14:05

I voted Bisy, but upon looking at the Yamato in google... WHAT A BEAST!!! Is it the one the yanks sunk with an A-bomb in peace time?

Absolutely stunning... but not as stunning as the Pornstar I whored in leaving out - my all time favorite LEANNA HEART!!! How do you guys not know about her?!?!

Added by Ming... Gee Zylka... just back from a restriction, and it seems like you are asking for another one. Enough with the porn star pictures...

**badams52** · July 19, 2003, 15:58

And I'm just saying that "default" answers shouldn't get the same points as a legitimate answer. I have nothing against Zylka, just that full value default answers that get top billing take away from my joy of the game.

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