Reparations for african-americans

[David Floyd]

Kidicious, so who should pay? All whites, or just those with slave owning ancestors? You run into major problems either way.

[Sprayber]

Wasn't the South being razed to the ground and hundreds of thousands of people dead enough?

BTW, I have numerous Irish ancestors, can I get some of those English bastards to pay me reparations for the centuries of destruction and famine they caused. Then again I have English ancestors to, does that mean that I should pay reparations to myself.

[MikeH]

If you just had a more socialist economic policy the problem would solve itself.

[PLATO]

The solution to the so called "black plight" in this country is to actually offer an equal opportunity. This can only come from the implementation of two things:

1.) Truly equal educational opportunity, i.e. all school districts being equally funded. This is definately not the case today.

2.) The absence of using race as a determining factor in social decisions. The talk of reperations is one thing that needs to go. This kind of thing tends to seperate blacks and whites into two distinct groups. This goes against the theory of "all men are created equal" (which of course applies to women as well!). Affirmitave action, while it is an idea that is grounded in trying to do the right thing, is equally as bad. Once real equality is obtained in educational opportunity and sociatal policy, then the need for both reparations and affirmitive action will dissapear.

[TheStinger]

Which African americans would ger the money. Colin Powell. He's obviously been disadvantaged. If he was white he could be Supreme leader of the universe

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Kidicious, so who should pay? All whites, or just those with slave owning ancestors? You run into major problems either way.

Everyone should pay, even blacks. I don't hold individuals responsible. I hold society responsible.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
The solution to the so called "black plight" in this country is to actually offer an equal opportunity. This can only come from the implementation of two things:

1.) Truly equal educational opportunity, i.e. all school districts being equally funded. This is definately not the case today.

2.) The absence of using race as a determining factor in social decisions. The talk of reperations is one thing that needs to go. This kind of thing tends to seperate blacks and whites into two distinct groups. This goes against the theory of "all men are created equal" (which of course applies to women as well!). Affirmitave action, while it is an idea that is grounded in trying to do the right thing, is equally as bad. Once real equality is obtained in educational opportunity and sociatal policy, then the need for both reparations and affirmitive action will dissapear.

The problem is that funding education is not going to create equality. I think you know that. Something is missing from your logic. I'm not sure what it is though.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by TheStinger
Which African americans would ger the money. Colin Powell. He's obviously been disadvantaged. If he was white he could be Supreme leader of the universe

That SOB needs to give me some money.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Kidicious


The problem is that funding education is not going to create equality. I think you know that. Something is missing from your logic. I'm not sure what it is though.

Kid, funding education equally is but part of the solution. Taking that in concert with step two and now you are making progress. Until the idea of one race versus another race is eradicated from our society, we will continue to have problems.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by PLATO1003


Kid, funding education equally is but part of the solution. Taking that in concert with step two and now you are making progress. Until the idea of one race versus another race is eradicated from our society, we will continue to have problems.

I agree with you there. It shouldn't be about race versus race. It should be about creating a more egalitarian society. The problem is that if blacks are treated equally by individuals in society they only way to make sure that they are treated equally is do give them advantages. That is, unless we can do things very differently than they are already done.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Actually, we should just send all the sponges who want a handout to Africa or someplace, regardless of their "color" "race" or whatever other excuses they claim.

Then let them sponge off each other, and "build communities" (another excuse for one set of sponges to get more of the money and tell the other set of sponges what to do and how. Trouble is, most everyone wants to get in the first set of sponges, so they have to set up some exclusivity to justify their sponge-eliteness.)

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Kidicious


y. The problem is that if blacks are treated equally by individuals in society they only way to make sure that they are treated equally is do give them advantages.

Orwell would be proud of that statement.

That is, unless we can do things very differently than they are already done.

Which is exactly what I purpose.

[Kidlicious]

No we should send the fascists there. But take their stuff first.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
Which is exactly what I purpose.

I meant doing things differently, but in a way that will create equality. What is your solution?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Maybe we need the fascists to organize the sponges and teach them to be productive.