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  • Originally posted by notyoueither
    And you speak for all the Ukrainians, Uzbeks, Georgians, and assorted others who could not waste a minute to be rid of your beloved system? btw, that system carried off far more of them than of Russians. You expect they would thank you for it?
    Yeah, right Russians suffered the most of all other peoples during Stalin's rule. Russians were majority of SU population and majority among Stalin's victims.
    As for your numbers 50 millions it's more than 1/4 of population of USSR before the war. In accordance with your logic every fourth citizen of SU including childrens and elders was slain during Stalin's times. Great logic.
    Last edited by Serb; July 15, 2003, 07:35.

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    • And don't forget to ask Native Americans what they think about your beloved democracy. And how much they gratefull to your belowed system for their complete extermination.

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      • And also you may ask Americans with Japanese origins how much they gratefull that your belowed sytem put them into concentration camps during WW2.

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        • "We are holier than you are, red ass evil motherf*ckers...blah...blah...blah...we never invade anyone, (Vietnam, Iraq, Yugosalvia, etc) and never killed anyone (2 millions in Vietnam, hell knows how many Iraqis, Yugosalvians, and Native Americans at the first place)...blah...blah...blah"
          Have a nice day.

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          • Originally posted by Serb
            As for your numbers 50 millions it's more than 1/4 of population of USSR before the war. In accordance with your logic every fourth citizen of SU including childrens and elders was slain during Stalin's times. Great logic.
            We can start with the 7-10 million dead Ukrainians from the man made famine there and work up if you really want to be anal about it.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • How about comparing the censun numbers from the various years? I mean the real ones. those are public now.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • DP.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  We can start with the 7-10 million dead Ukrainians from the man made famine there and work up if you really want to be anal about it.
                  Ok. I guess 10 millions it's about half of entire population of Ukraine in 20s.
                  So in accordance with you, almost every second Ukranian including children and elders was slain, right?

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                  • Originally posted by Serb
                    So in accordance with you, almost every second Ukranian including children and elders was slain, right?
                    No. Acording to me 7-10 million dead Ukrainians starved to death.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Who cares about your IMHO? In accordance with me 30-50 millions of Native Americans died because of Americans.
                      Both statements are baseless.

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                      • Originally posted by Serb
                        Who cares about your IMHO?
                        You. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.
                        Both statements are baseless.
                        The difference between the 2 statements is that mine is backed up by historical evidence.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • Originally posted by Serb
                          And also you may ask Americans with Japanese origins how much they gratefull that your belowed sytem put them into concentration camps during WW2.
                          at least they did not kill them , ........
                          - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                          - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                          WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                          • Originally posted by Serb
                            Who cares about your IMHO? In accordance with me 30-50 millions of Native Americans died because of Americans.
                            Both statements are baseless.
                            there where not even 30 to 50 million to kill , .......
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                            WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                            • Originally posted by panag


                              there where not even 30 to 50 million to kill , .......
                              Possibly in Mexico, but then it falls on the Spanish, not us Gringos.


                              Don't worry, it won't be a Serb debate until Serb brings out his Random Picture of Russian Military Might(tm)
                              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                              • Originally posted by Serb
                                And also you may ask Americans with Japanese origins how much they gratefull that your belowed sytem put them into concentration camps during WW2.
                                concentration camps is a harsh word, they were more like containment camps... wrong, no matter what, but the people WERE properly fed and housed. Can you say the same of the soviets purged by stalin?

                                native americans... not to justify their near extermination, were foreigners to America... the American democracy kiled them because at the time they were 'enemies' and we were invading them. This is much differnt from the soviet union killing its own people, being killed by a system they lived under.... the US has never slaughtered its own citizens on a mass scale (except perhaps the salem witch trials or somethn like that, but regaurdless, nothing like the SU)
                                "I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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