Shades of grey. There are no absolutes.
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Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard Dawkins
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Why do otherwise intelligent people make statements like thisOriginally posted by Starchild
Shades of grey. There are no absolutes.
- "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
- I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
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People are lazy and won't look for the facts that let them make a decision.
I said that initially, and it's been proven throughout the thread.
Which is cool. That's fine.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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I see people who make black & white decisions as people who are not really willing to delve into the facts more often then not, or not willing to consider facts that might be contrary to the decision they have already made.
This isn't always the case, but for a large number of people it is, which makes me question your assumption that shades of grey people are lazy or not willing to consider all the facts. Often, if you consider ALL facts available to you, you'll find pros and cons for both sides = grey. I would think the shades of grey people are that way because they are willing to look at facts more objectively.
By the way, being a shade of grey person doesn't mean you're indecisive. It just means more often then not you've got to make decisions based on probable outcomes as opposed to certainties.
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Some people aren't full of them selves and can admit that they don't know everything, that they aren't omniscient.Originally posted by SlowwHand
People are lazy and won't look for the facts that let them make a decision.
I said that initially, and it's been proven throughout the thread.
Which is cool. That's fine.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
Do It Ourselves
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But neither option is absolutely wonderful and perfect (call it white) while the other is horribly evil (call it black). There are a lot of pros to keeping the death penalty and a lot of pros to abolishing it. If you study the issue in depth, maybe you can come out with the conclusion that the pros of keeping the death penalty slightly outweigh the cons of it, you can say that keeping is a slightly lighter shade of grey than getting rid of it, and make your decision on that basis.The death penalty is an excellent example of black and white, if you have the facts. To the people insisting on gray, you're remembering to dig down to the lowest level, right?If you have the facts, there can be no gray; that's what I'm saying.
When I think of "black and white", I think more of someone who would say "Keeping the death penalty is the only possibility, no one innocent ever gets murdered, anyone who supports getting rid of the death penalty must be either a lunatic who ought to be committed or a communist trying to destroy the country" or something. With the exception of some religions and "Lord of the Rings", you never get that kind of all-good vs. all-bad conflict, and you've got to choose between greys."Although I may disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to hear me tell you how wrong you are."
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Grey. There is no absolute right or wrong in most if not all moral issues.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
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One might say that your position about this is extreme, no? "Everything is certain way" is black or white.
Not really... because I'm not saying that I'm 100% right. I could be wrong (ie, a shade of grey).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Neither Black or White... the answer's Hispanic
for real though yall can probably guess what my position would be... some things are right and some things are wrong. enough said."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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I would say its the other way round. Most ppl. who think about everything in terms of black and white, havent really informed themselves about the topic. Usually some statements from other persons/groups are taken for the ultimate truth. This is esspecially true for religious people. For example most Christians base their opinions on the bible or religous leaders, they dont go for facts.All it means by saying that you only see things in black or white is that you have actually bothered to make an informed opinion.
Ultimatly there is always a up and downsite to all issues thus the world is grey. For example food-donation to poor ppl in Africa or somewhere. You have the upsite of ppl. beeing feed and not starving. But you have the downsite of discouraging them from doing something on their own to get out of this mess (like farming their own food). Same goes for any other issue, also they are sometimes very close to entirly black...If its no fun why do it? Dance like noone is watching...
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