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  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    I thought the battle scenes were generally well done, and the inner dialogue compelling. It had to do something right, so many good reviews and 7 Oscar nominations!
    The imagery of the battles was heavy handed at besy, even if technicaly proficient. And I could never believe that anyone would have these long-winded, wondering philosophical innner dialogues in those conditions. Oh, and qas for the Academy awards, Kubric and Hitchcock never got any awards (except tribute ones) nor did Cary Grant.

    As in 2001 Space Odyssey? Doesn't go back that far... I wouldn't know . Though it seems some of the same charges levied against that movie (boring, etc.) are latched onto this one.

    Maybe I just like epic films
    yeah, but 2001 is an epic that stands the test of time, even if it is vague and slow at times and NOt for everyone: it's been 5 years and I think most people can;t remember TRL at all. It has rightfully been forgotten.
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    • Gump wasn't good, it was syrupy tripe! Blech!
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      • And I could never believe that anyone would have these long-winded, wondering philosophical innner dialogues in those conditions.


        Why not? Don't you think people might think of bigger things in these conditions? In stressful situations you don't clense your mind of other philosophical questions relating to where you are.

        Oh, and qas for the Academy awards, Kubric and Hitchcock never got any awards (except tribute ones) nor did Cary Grant.


        What should Kubric have won for? And what films did Hitchcock go against? I've never been too fond of Kubric and Hitchcock could very easily be seen as a cult filmmaker at the time.

        it's been 5 years and I think most people can;t remember TRL at all.


        Yes, unfortunetly the great low-hyped movies never stick in the public's mind. They'd rather remember "Spiderman". Seeing as most people can't recognize "The Big Lebowski" (a comedy classic, IMO), I don't think that means anything.
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        • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Why not? Don't you think people might think of bigger things in these conditions? In stressful situations you don't clense your mind of other philosophical questions relating to where you are.
          Not in the style thse guys did, slow, and wordy. It might have worked better is the character had been introduced as a poet or such.


          What should Kubric have won for? And what films did Hitchcock go against? I've never been too fond of Kubric and Hitchcock could very easily be seen as a cult filmmaker at the time.


          hmm, Kubrick for Strangelove, Clockworck Orange, perhaps Barry Lyndon. As for Hitchcock, we are talking best director, not best movie. The question is which directors making which movies.

          Yes, unfortunetly the great low-hyped movies never stick in the public's mind. They'd rather remember "Spiderman". Seeing as most people can't recognize "The Big Lebowski" (a comedy classic, IMO), I don't think that means anything.
          Actually, Big Lebowsky has much more traction than TRL.
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          • My criteria for liking a movie is easy:

            Entertain me, make me laugh, make me cry, make me oh and ah.

            I don't care if a scene is "technically proficient" or "historically inaccurate".

            I don't care if the movie doesn't have a message.

            It's entertainment folks, that's all.

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            • It might have worked better is the character had been introduced as a poet or such.


              That's the point... characters don't matter in the big picture.

              hmm, Kubrick for Strangelove, Clockworck Orange, perhaps Barry Lyndon. As for Hitchcock, we are talking best director, not best movie. The question is which directors making which movies.


              Who was Kubrick up against? As for Hitchcock, directs of what are seen as cult movies will never win.

              Actually, Big Lebowsky has much more traction than TRL.


              People know the Coen Bros more than Malik.
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              • Originally posted by GePap


                The bootcamp scenes: the rest of the movie is forgettable.

                Anbd as far as I can tell cinch, yes, you are as of yet the only posters to like FMJ the whole way trought.
                how can you not like the classic lines such as:

                "no more boom boom for this girl", "how do you shoot women and children?; easy... you dont give them as much lead"... etc.
                (and ofcourse the most popular phrase : "ooh me so horny". )
                Im with tuberski. If it entertained you, it did its job. If it provoked you to think deeply about its nice too, but entertainment is whats most important.
                :-p

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                • I can't believe no one's mentioned "Kelly's Heroes" yet. One of the few movies that I'll always watch when it comes on.

                  Where Eagles Dare with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood, great movie.


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                  • A great war movie that I have seen is Henry V. Agincourt was interestingly portrayed.

                    Enemy at the gates completely sucks.

                    I couldn't agree more with you, Serb. Are there very many other war movies from French directors, so that I can avoid them?

                    Stalingrad, on the other hand, was a good movie! Are there any good Russian portrayals of the battle?
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                    • Originally posted by DanS
                      I couldn't agree more with you, Serb. Are there very many other war movies from French directors, so that I can avoid them?
                      I guess you should avoid all war movies made by French directors.
                      Stalingrad, on the other hand, was a good movie! Are there any good Russian portrayals of the battle?
                      I don't remember a single modern Russian movie about Stalingrad battle. All movies about Stalingrad were made during Soviet times. Most of them were very good and very accurate in comparsion with 'enemy at the gates', but still it were for internal use. A heroic sagas about great struggle. I doubt any of them were ever translated to foreign languages.

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                      • I've always like Platoon. Born on the Fourth of July was also good- though that wasn't exactly a war movie. Honorable mentions to full metal jacket and saving private ryan.

                        I know this sounds cliched. But I have to go with Apocalypse Now. If it weren't for that movie, I wouldn't have even got into war movies.

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                        • saving private ryan... awesome to this day
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                          • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                            I can't believe no one's mentioned "Kelly's Heroes" yet. One of the few movies that I'll always watch when it comes on.

                            Where Eagles Dare with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood, great movie.


                            kelly's heroes and where eagle's dare are both awesome movies love clint eastwood (love the avatar, btw, Dissident)

                            anyone mention Dirty Dozen? im a sucker for Lee Marvin...
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                            • anyone mention Dirty Dozen? im a sucker for Lee Marvin...


                              Yeah, someone already mentioned it. Thank god they did or I might have had a vein explode in my brain.
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                              • paths of glory
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