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  • #16
    Ofcourse he could have said it, he is afterall a christian fundamentalist.
    In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
    In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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    • #17
      Ive met Muslims that say it .. and Ive met Christian fundamentalists that don't ..

      more scarey are the athiests that say it .. cos you know they don't mean it

      Anyway .. I just don't think you can say its true, because you judge him to be a fundamentalist.
      "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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      • #18
        Well, he has said wackier things:

        Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity.

        We Americans have faith in ourselves, but not in ourselves alone. We do not know -- we do not claim to know all the ways of Providence, yet we can trust in them, placing our confidence in the loving God behind all of life, and all of history.

        May He guide us now. And may God continue to bless the United States of America.
        So I consider it quite possible
        In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
        In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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        • #19
          Why do you think this is wacker ?? (just interested)
          "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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          • #20
            I wouldn't be really surprised if he would've babbled something like that, but I'm more sceptic from the "source's" motives -- so no, I don't believe that Bush has said that.

            Come on people, Are we really going to trust the words of the Palestinian Prime Minister? This is ridiculous!


            MarkG isn't probably too far from the truth, either.
            Last edited by RGBVideo; June 28, 2003, 18:16.

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            • #21
              confirmed ---> "My mother always said when you're eating pretzels, chew before you swallow.''

              now figure.
              justice is might

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              • #22
                but don't inhale .. I think GWB should have taken Clinton's advice on that
                "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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                • #23
                  I'm reminded of what Ivanova said just before her last battle in Babylon 5:

                  GOD SENT ME.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #24
                    I was rather shocked to read the following phrases:

                    God "giving" liberty to mankind

                    "loving God behind all of life, and all of history"

                    "May He guide us now"

                    This sounds like a very extreme thing to say, especially for the most important political figure of the US (and the world)
                    In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
                    In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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                    • #25
                      I think it may have been an attempt to say, in languge they would understand and no uncertain terms, that he would be relentless.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #26
                        I think for us Euro's, it certainly would be shocking to hear our leaders say such things, but religion is part of the mantle peice of American politics.

                        The American founding fathers probably did believe that all men have "God Given" rights to freedom , and so he is playing the patriotic note.
                        "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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                        • #27
                          I think for us Euro's, it certainly would be shocking to hear our leaders say such things, but religion is part of the mantle peice of American politics.
                          One of the less clear themes of American history until the 20th century was its isolation. Ignoring some skirmishes with Mexico and England, America's focus was inward. In fact, the watershed event in American history was our own Civil War.

                          Culturally, America's religious beliefs developed very differently than Europe's. I believe this is partly because of our isolation. From the Puritans to the Calvinists to the Baptists to the Mormons, we've developed some truly fundamentalist theologies. Without the isolation, I very much doubt such extreme fundamentalism could have survived.

                          Today we are the inheritors of these beliefs that have so thoroughly permeated our culture. It is a truism that a man like Bush simply could not have been elected unless he invoked God from time to time. We prefer our leaders to spout our own American brands of theology and we're suspicious of those who don't. One of the biggest issues with John F Kennedy as a candidate was that he was Catholic - an old European religion.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by The Viceroy
                            I think for us Euro's, it certainly would be shocking to hear our leaders say such things, but religion is part of the mantle peice of American politics.

                            The American founding fathers probably did believe that all men have "God Given" rights to freedom , and so he is playing the patriotic note.
                            If this is true, why doesn't he say it on a broadcast on TV? Rather than say it in a private meeting...

                            I'd agree with MtG - seems a case of faulty translation that freaked out the Palestinian PM.

                            Mind you, if he really is like that... we're in trouble.

                            What if God tells him to invade North Korea, stage a land war in India or just press the button so God can start again?
                            Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
                            "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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                            • #29
                              Well, he has said wackier things:


                              It doesn't seem wackier to me. In fact it seems very moving and touching... and I sure ain't no Christian .
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #30
                                It wouldn't surprise me one bit... although, I tend to think that Bush uses the religion card only to relate to religious conservatives.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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