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  • #16
    Those pictures look terrible!

    What ever happened to Apple PR?

    You'd think they could at least afford a stuidio shoot and some decent lighting.
    Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
    "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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    • #17
      price?
      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
      'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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      • #18
        $2,000 - $3,000
        "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
        Drake Tungsten
        "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
        Albert Speer

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        • #19
          is that for the lowest model or the highest model?
          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
          'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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          • #20
            $2,000 for lowest, $3,000 for highest.
            "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
            Drake Tungsten
            "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
            Albert Speer

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            • #21
              ah i see. still out of my price range.
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #22
                I'm going to
                a) save my pennies and dimes
                and
                b) wait for the next big release and/or prices to come down...
                "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                Drake Tungsten
                "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                Albert Speer

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by monolith94
                  Wait... you're a pc user, right? I thought functionality mattered more to you than aesthetics!!!
                  I'm a gay PC user. 'nuff said.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #24
                    You're a traitor, that's what you are!

                    But seriously, I think it looks pretty good. I like the shape the sillhouette of it makes...
                    "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                    Drake Tungsten
                    "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                    Albert Speer

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                    • #25
                      --"Yeah, once again their numbers are fishy."

                      Well, this is Apple, so it's only to be expected.

                      However, the ones you've quoted aren't fishy. You've just failed to notice the compiler used. The Apple numbers used gcc, the Intel numbers used ICC++. It's very well known that gcc sucks for P4 optimizations.
                      Still, best-available-compiler vs best-available-compiler would have been better. At least Apple should be within a stone's throw of the PC low-end again.

                      Wraith
                      I'm really quite pleasant until I'm awake

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                      • #26
                        I noticed the compilers. I also noticed the OS.

                        They intentionally used Linux + GCC because they knew it sucked on the P4.

                        95% of PC users don't use Linux + GCC, and use apps compiled with either Intel or Microsoft's compilers and run on Windows, so it makes sense to use those.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #27
                          Maybe a compiler with G5 optimisations would show an even bigger "leap".

                          You've got to admit though Asher, the G5 will be very nice for running Mac applications - not that it's a big market but then some people would rather lose their genitals than their favourite operating system.
                          Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
                          "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cruddy
                            Maybe a compiler with G5 optimisations would show an even bigger "leap".
                            By "G5" optimizations, you mean PowerPC-64 optimizations.

                            Yeah, GCC has those. IBM engineers have been tweaking GCC for 2 years in preparation for the Power4 (the G5 is a cutdown Power4). Intel doesn't touch GCC, and instead relies on its cross-platform Intel compiler. As such, GCC code sucks ass on the Pentium 4 and is optimized for PowerPC quite heavily.

                            ----

                            Surprise, Surprise: http://news.com.com/2100-1045_3-1020215.html?tag=fd_top

                            Apple's charging users, again, to upgrade to OS 10.3.

                            So that's at least 4 OSes Mac users had to buy in the time period where Windows XP came out and offered free updates.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #29
                              That's funny... I can't remember the last time I bought an operating system... And I'm running 10.2...

                              Hmmmm.
                              "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                              Drake Tungsten
                              "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                              Albert Speer

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                              • #30
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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