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    What's Up With The Sound On The New Metallica Album?

    06.13.2003 7:54 AM EDT

    "We wanted to disregard what everybody assumes records should be and throw out all the rules." — producer Bob Rock

    No other contemporary chart-topping rock album sounds remotely like Metallica's St. Anger. Never mind the whirlwind tempos, multiple rhythm changes and seven-minute songs. What's really unusual are the lo-fi tones and unconventional constructions.

    The drums don't crack, they clang, and cymbals cut out abruptly. There are no guitar solos. Once in a while a guitar lick lags behind the beat, and frontman James Hetfield's vocals occasionally veer off key.

    Stranger still, that's exactly the way Metallica and producer Bob Rock wanted it to sound.

    "I wanted to do something to shake up radio and the way everything else sounds," said Rock, who helped write the music and lyrics and played basslines on the album. "To me, this album sounds like four guys in a garage getting together and writing rock songs."

    The genesis of Metallica's raw new sound had as much to do with art as with anger. Shortly after Metallica hired Rock —, who had worked on their last three studio records, including the pristine, polished Metallica (a.k.a. "the black album") (Siro: and including their very unpopular and not-metal albums "load" and "reload") — the producer told drummer Lars Ulrich that he was tired of clean, by-the-book production. He proposed recording in a way that made a statement like some of Ulrich's favorite artists, including Dutch primitivism painter Karel Appel, the Danish experimentalists CoBrA and various groundbreaking jazz musicians. From word one, Lars was on board.

    Metallica achieved the primitive sound and schizophrenic vibe of St. Anger by combining old recording technology with cutting-edge editing software. While Rock had previously rigged Lars' kit with multiple modern microphones and dampened the bass drum with pillows, spending as much as a week perfecting a snare sound, this time Rock spent five minutes setting up the drums and recorded the rest of the band with a combination of cheap PA mics and vintage microphones.

    With the bare-bones recording equipment in place, Metallica started coming up with riffs together and rocked them out like a group of friends hooking up just to mess around. Once they'd concocted rhythms they liked, they'd combine them and record long jam sessions. Lyrics were written by the entire band moments before a song was recorded, and Hetfield's vocals were recorded in one or two takes to capture the immediacy of the moment, glitches and all.

    "There was really no time to get amazing performances out of James," Rock said. "We liked the raw performances. And we didn't do what everyone does and what I've been guilty of for a long time, which is tuning vocals. We just did it, boom, and that was it."

    After the basic recordings were done, Metallica tried to add guitar solos. Kirk Hammett recorded a bunch of leads ranging from slow and evocative to lightning-fast and aggressive, but Rock and the band ultimately decided to leave them all out.

    "We made a promise to ourselves that we'd only keep stuff that had integrity," Rock said. "We didn't want to make a theatrical statement by adding overdubs. If we added something and it helped the mood or what we were trying to convey, that stayed. But if it distracted from that ... then we killed it. Every time we tried to do a solo, either it dated it slightly or took away from what we were trying to accomplish in some other way. I think we wanted all the aggression to come from the band rather than one player."

    Once the band packed up its gear, it was time to unpack the computers. They used the computer program ProTools to reconstruct the songs in sometimes drastically different ways.

    "A lot of the songs were done in William Burroughs cut-and-paste fashion," said Rock, referring to a style in which a piece of writing is cut into pieces and reassembled at random. "There are movements in moviemaking and in music where you take technology as an art and you actually abuse it. Some people use ProTools to trick and fool the listener, but we used it more as a creative tool to do something interesting and stretch boundaries.

    "Technically, you'll hear cymbals go away and you'll hear bad edits. We wanted to disregard what everybody assumes records should be and throw out all the rules. I've spent 25 years learning how to do it the so-called right way. I didn't want to do that anymore."

    —Jon Wiederhorn


    All I want to say is a big F*CK YOU BOB ROCK


    I've been so ****ing excited about this album, and so swayed by promises of "new heavy tunes" and "going back to earlier styles".

    I've listened to samples of recordings that didn't make it to this album amd are melodical, fast and heavy (DK Rolls is one).

    It's Bob Rock's luck that no metallica fan reads mtv.com (where this interview was), and the only link was found on some destitute metallica fan site.

    If this was public knowledge, I but some freak would have done some nasty things to him.
    Last edited by Sirotnikov; June 18, 2003, 16:58.

  • #2
    go protools!
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    • #3
      I didn't think Metallica could get worse, and then I heard some tracks from St. Anger. OMG, it's just sad. My dog could write better music.
      "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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      • #4
        You can tell Hedfield wrote it under time pressure, he was told to write songs in minutes.

        The whole feel of the album is too commercialised, trying to be their old selves when they are simply not capable of it. And I HATE the copy protection!!!!
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        • #5
          I FLUSH IT OUT FLUSH IT OUT FLUSH IT OUT

          I'M MADLY IN ANGER WITH YOU

          RAAAAR

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          • #6
            :sad:

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            • #7
              *points and laughs*

              I actually mildly enjoyed it, in the sence that I bothered to download a couple of songs of it. ( Will the record industry's black choppers arrive now? ).

              I think it's good that they're trying to reinvent themselves. That's always positive, esp. since they did loose credibility in the general rock/metal fan population. But it would be even better if I actually had fun with their music.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #8
                Pah.

                Load and Reload were much more metal than this. And they were mostly hard rock. I loved many of their songs. Why? Because they were all very melodical, deep, meaningful (usually), and... welll... perfect.

                The new album is merely some riffs (1 or 2 musical phrases) recorded using an empty glass and a cord and cut and pasted using a double casette stereo And it sounds like it too!


                As for downloading - I could only download things that didn't get into their album. I tried to download their stuff several times each time hitting fakes.

                Can you help?

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                • #9
                  After discovering Rammstein a while ago, I seriously wonder why not all heavy metal bands sing in German. That language fits the music perfectly.
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                  • #10
                    commercialized?

                    how can anyone say that?

                    It's just the opposite.

                    I love the album. I do have some complaints about the sound quality. Especially the clangy drums. The lack of guitar solos is interesting, but doesn't bother me too much. They've been done to death. No one does guitar solos anymore. The lyrics are kind of lacking though. There are no really good lyrical songs. I haven't read the lyrics yet, but nothing really stands out so far. Although invisible kids sound like it might have decent lyrics- I can only get bits and pieces though- I haven't read them.

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                    • #11
                      It's commercialized for sure. It's just got that "I'm not commercialized at all" commercialization going on. Just like Avril Lavigne is somehow not completely commercial because she's not Brittany Spears. Same thing. It all sucks.
                      "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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                      • #12
                        People, now you're scaring me. The new album is not yet here, so I'm still trying to figure out if I should buy it or not. These comments don't help very much.
                        The monkeys are listening.

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                        • #13
                          But that does explain their sound. Thanks for the article. I was wondering about that. There are a few times on the album his voice loses the note.

                          And it explains why the snare drum (I think that is the name of the drum- I'm not familiar with drum kits) sounds like absolute crap. Although sometimes I like the sound of it, most of the time I don't. The bass drum sounds Okay.

                          The bass guitar which I complained about before, isn't too bad. But not too good either. I would like them to re-record the album with Rob Trujillo playing the bass.

                          Also there are no ballad type slow songs. I found that interesting. I've come to expect that from Metallica. And a few 10 second guitar solos wouldn't be so bad.

                          But I do like the aggressiveness. Musically this album kicks but. Lots of good riffs, and good guitar work. The weak points are the lyrics, drum sound quality, and lack of innovative bass guitar work.

                          But honestly, I don't give a **** about the ballad slow songs. They weren't that great anyways . I like the heavy songs. It rocks man, it rocks! Musically this is the best metallica album in a long time. Lyrically- well it is a disappointment.

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                          • #14
                            well "master - faster" ( ) is not exactly the paragon of lyric-writing, yet it's hailed as one of their best songs ever.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              Master of Puppets? That song has other lyrics as well.

                              I think I know why I like it so much. Because it sounds the most like And Justice for All. My favourite Metallica album. Although it lacks the long guitar solos of Justice, and of course it has not song like One.

                              Sometimes, I felt I was the only one who like And Justice for all. Metallica themselves seem to hate the album. They hardly play any of those songs- they usually do some medley in which they combine several of the songs from that album into one song.

                              Also this album isn't as polished as Justice by a long shot.

                              While it lacks monumental songs such as One, Master of Puppets, Bleeding Me, Enter Sandman and such. It is a rocking album. Solid, in your face Metal.
                              Last edited by Dis; June 19, 2003, 03:19.

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