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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kidicious
    Most people don't think he would win though.
    Any particular reason why? It isn't as if Californians are afraid to elect actors to high office.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      Any particular reason why? It isn't as if Californians are afraid to elect actors to high office.
      He would be running against Diane Feinstien, and California is much more liberal than we were in the 70s.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
        I dont like Gray Davis, but what are the alternatives? And btw, there is nothing wrong with what clinton did. The state has no right to delve into other people's sex life.
        Then Clinton, via his lawyers, should have objected to the line of questioning and refused to answer until the matter of those objections was addressed on in law and motion and then on appeal. That's standard deposition procedure, although usually nobody bothers with addressing the objections in law and motion, because you move forward with other discovery and then trial.

        Clinton was a lawyer, so he knew this. (and it wasn't the state, it was private civil litigation) Once he chose to answer, the issue of whether the line of questioning was proper became moot, which Clinton as a lawyer also knew. Once he chose to answer, he was under oath, so he was obligated both as a matter of law, and as a matter of professional ethics as an admitted attorney, to clearly and truthfully answer those questions he was asked.
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        • #19
          A recall of Gray Davis would be a blessing from heaven. Where can I go find one of those petitions to sign?

          Go Schwarzenegger!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kidicious


            He would be running against Diane Feinstien, and California is much more liberal than we were in the 70s.
            Why would Feinstein step down from a senate seat, where she is getting a good deal of bipartisan respect (and seniority), to run for governor?

            California is not at all more liberal than in the 70's. The bay area is as frootlooped as ever, but a good portion of Boxer's success is due more to the cost of campaigning in California compared to other states. On a national level, the RNC likes having Boxer in office, because she's a good propaganda tool, and the same amount of money they'd have to contribute to fund a competitive campaign in California (with it's high media costs) would be effective at tipping three or four other states. From a national majority perspective, one Senate seat is worth the same as any other, so spreading money over three or four smaller states rather than piling it into California makes sense.
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            • #21
              MtG: What would you peg Arnold's chances of winning if he decides to run?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kidicious
                I don't really care if he leaves. He cut services anyway. Let the Republicans try to deal with California's problems. They caused all the problems anyway. After they have a chance we can elect a real Democrat.
                Normally I don't like degrading myself.. but you are starting to sound like me in my inferences that all world problems are caused by communists.

                Actually the cold hard facts are this: The democrats the ones responsible for the mess in California. Davis is the one responsible. His incompetence and piss poor management skills caused the state to have a lot of problems.

                Infact kiddo, it seems like Gray Davis is effectively making the state turn republican because of his own screw ups and the consistent screw ups of the democrats as a whole.
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                • #23
                  And exactly what does an Agentinian kid who wants to pretend he's a spaniard know about California's problems. Go whine about Menem or something.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    Any particular reason why? It isn't as if Californians are afraid to elect actors to high office.
                    Well there was Reagan.. and isn't Arnold Schwarzenegger trying to run? I heard Arnold is also a republican. Well he would have my vote...

                    Kiddo:

                    He would be running against Diane Feinstien, and California is much more liberal than we were in the 70s.
                    I am inclined to disagree with that. Sure the San Francisco area is how shall we say... crazy... But most of California on the other hand is not more liberal than the 70s.

                    I am going to vote Republican when I turn 18 being a resident of California. I hope Schwarzenegger is gonna run.. and yes he could win just because of his sheer popularity.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                      And exactly what does an Agentinian kid who wants to pretend he's a spaniard know about California's problems. Go whine about Menem or something.
                      Okay, I will admit you this.. I been called Argentino one too many times by you Americans..

                      I am Spanish.. gah...

                      I am also a resident of California. Thus I will be attending: http://www.csun.edu with resident status. In turn I will pay less.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        MtG: What would you peg Arnold's chances of winning if he decides to run?
                        It depends a lot on how he presents himself. If he goes the social conservative route a la Simon, probably not much, even with the anti-Davis backlash. If he positions himself as a moderate Republican on social issues, but a fiscal conservative, he would have a very good chance, but that unfortunately means a lot of hardline local Republican party types won't likely support him. Maybe, just maybe, with the way the state's fiscal crisis affects their livelihoods, they'll bend a bit, but they didn't when it came down to the Riordan-Simon contest.

                        The problem with the Cali Republican Party Oberkommando and it's county party HQ's is that they're more interested (for statewide office) in ideological purity with the social conservatives than they are with winning.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fez


                          Okay, I will admit you this.. I been called Argentino one too many times by you Americans..

                          I am Spanish.. gah...

                          I am also a resident of California. Thus I will be attending: http://www.csun.edu with resident status. In turn I will pay less.
                          Since when are you a resident of Cali? The last story you told was how your daddy was some sort of US FSO who was going to be the next ambassador of the Republica de Carajo, or some other Latinamericano paradise. And if you think it makes you to play games with residency so you can sponge off the state budget, then you're an example of the kind of BS entitlement games that contribute to the state's financial condition. I wouldn't brag about it, personally.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                            Since when are you a resident of Cali? The last story you told was how your daddy was some sort of US FSO who was going to be the next ambassador of the Republica de Carajo, or some other Latinamericano paradise. And if you think it makes you to play games with residency so you can sponge off the state budget, then you're an example of the kind of BS entitlement games that contribute to the state's financial condition. I wouldn't brag about it, personally.
                            Hey when overseas, as my dad works for the US government I have to be a resident of some state. My dad still pays California State Taxes, and I have two relatives who are in California. One is in University and also registered as a resident, and the second one is working for some high tech company.

                            My dad pays plenty taxes as it is.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #29
                              Ah, ok, so you're one of those dirty immigrants coming in to add to the overcrowding and sponge off of limited public services. At least you're not another ****ing Zonie, though.

                              Why go to a half-assed school like CSUN, though, instead of USC? Especially if daddy has money?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                                Ah, ok, so you're one of those dirty immigrants coming in to add to the overcrowding and sponge off of limited public services. At least you're not another ****ing Zonie, though.
                                No not me. And I am not a dirty immigrant.. I am european.

                                Why go to a half-assed school like CSUN, though, instead of USC? Especially if daddy has money?
                                CSUN isn't a half assed school. I heard it was pretty good from my sister who has done a lot of research in that area.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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