Why Capitalists are Capitalists...

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Nihon e itta koto ga arima****a ka? Nanjikan ni?

Everyone knows you're an evil genius. Now can you speak in a language the rest of us can understand please.

[Velociryx]

Contrary to yours, if you pay people 30k to stay home, or 32k to work hard, they'll stay home....all of them. Unless of course we change things up a bit....maybe we could start sending healthy indiv...erm...members of the group who REFUSE to work off to the Gulag too!

-=Vel=-

[JohnT]

"If you want to complain about people who do nothing, then complain about the people who live off inherited wealth or trust funds. They contribute no labour to the economy and create no wealth at all - in short they do nothng productive. Worse, people who work (both business owners and wage and salary earners) end up paying for the lot of it."

In fact, they do create wealth in their spending of the trusts assets to maintain their lifestyle.

[Az]

The richest people already have enough money to buy everything they want.

[Velociryx]

which....pumps money into the economy and pays my salary?

-=Vel=-

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious

Forget about ethnic and religious wars. In fact forget about war. Not a problem in a communist world. Now get those people some damn birth control. Then give them an income to buy things. Unemployment problem solved.

Ask the Chechens about that. Then again, I guess you could say it's "successful" if you have enough money to throw at a conscript occupying force that you give everyone else a common enemy to hate, and if you have enough of a security apparatus to constantly spy on everyone discontent with your enlightened rule.

Oh, and try that nonsense in the Congo, but bring some onions.

They have the best labor laws in the world. Too bad the US and others are so exploitive.

Yes, I'm sure we'd all gladly trade the US economy for the French and German economies. Even better to trade those average standards of living.

If the world worked together on the problem of technological unemployment the results would be positive.

For those who got the fruits of other's labor without contributing much of their own, yes. Let's give up on the notion of intellectual property entirely, and let the state decide what should be built. Excuse me while I go into the other room to replace a vacuum tube in my computer.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Contrary to yours, if you pay people 30k to stay home, or 32k to work hard, they'll stay home....all of them. Unless of course we change things up a bit....maybe we could start sending healthy indiv...erm...members of the group who REFUSE to work off to the Gulag too!

-=Vel=-

Did I say they were going to get a little tiny bit more, no. I said they won't be as rich as the rich of the current system.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Everyone knows you're an evil genius. Now can you speak in a language the rest of us can understand please.

I was asking you if you'd ever been to Japan, and for how long?

(Hint, if you go up the trail of talking about the Japanese economy, work practicies, efficiency, etc., you're walking into a very big ambush)

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by JohnT
In fact, they do create wealth in their spending of the trusts assets to maintain their lifestyle.

Bull****! The people who worked to build that sh1t produced that wealth.

[Velociryx]

By the way, MtG, you greedy capitalist bastard....when's my cut of your next check coming?! I don't need to call out the "Stuff Police" do I?



-=Vel=-

[JohnT]

"Forget about ethnic and religious wars. In fact forget about war. Not a problem in a communist world. Now get those people some damn birth control. Then give them an income to buy things. Unemployment problem solved."

Tell it to the Chechzens (sp), Afghani's, Eastern Europe (Oh, wait - they were just liberated by an army that never left. That's not a hostile act!), Cambodians and the Soviet government vs. the Soviet people.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Ask the Chechens about that. Then again, I guess you could say it's "successful" if you have enough money to throw at a conscript occupying force that you give everyone else a common enemy to hate, and if you have enough of a security apparatus to constantly spy on everyone discontent with your enlightened rule.

Oh, and try that nonsense in the Congo, but bring some onions.

Do you believe that conflicts are caused by competition for resources? I do. It's called ethnic conflict, but really it comes down to which ethnic group gets access to resources. Eliminate the shortages and teach people to work together for every ethnic groups benefits and you will see huge improvement.

[Az]

which....pumps money into the economy and pays my salary?

'' indeed.

Yes, I'm sure we'd all gladly trade the US economy for the French and German economies. Even better to trade those average standards of living.

The quality of life is higher in Europe.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Bull****! The people who worked to build that sh1t produced that wealth.

And, as we all know, they'd still build it without customers.



God, that was funny!

[Velociryx]

A convenient, and not unexpected excuse, Kid, from someone who speaks in terms of vagaries constantly (ie - you said the income variance would be smaller, but could not, of course, say by how much).

So what IS the top and bottom value?30k for the stay at homes, and 40k for those who work? 45k? What is it? You should be able to give some general numbers, cos, you know....individual salaries don't matter....it's a group thing.

And it's NOT BS, btw...yes, the people who worked to build that sh1t created that wealth. That includes the people who worked to build the company at which that sh1t was produced. The same folks who are now living off the trust fund, or their children.

-=Vel=-