The U.S. should seriously consider giving back the lands it took illegally

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Oh, I see. Statute of Limitations is in effect.
Dumbasses.

Do you want to give Texas back to the Mexicans? If not then I suggest you shut the hell up.

Yes, I do believe in a statutue of limitations on the theft of land. I stand greatly to benefit by invalidating the former claims of the American Indians to a great part of the US. I'm willing to negotiate on this or that peice of land which was egregiously taken (where the treaties were broken by the US), but over all, this place is ours, and we ain't given it back.

In other words, I'm being more honest about our right to appropriate the land than Berserker. It's ours because we took it, not because the former occupiers had an invalid claim to begin with.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Come on. Be realistic.
The American Indians were filthy beasts in loin cloths, and that's the ONLY reasons you find them attractive.
Not because of their culture.

Not all Amerinds were Texan, you know. In most of the country, they wore shirts and slacks and dresses, especially in the winter. What I find surprising is why you Texans don't strip down to your skivies in High Summer.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by gunkulator

... By comparison, Mesopotamia had wheat, oats, barley and rice with pack/food animals like cattle, pigs, goats, sheep and horses.
...

Yeah, pork is the favorite food over there, right? I read a scientific article suggesting that pork was banned by the monotheistic religions because the forests in middle east vanished due to a climate change in 4000 BC or so. Hogs prefere to live in forestland and thus, the middle east could not support their people by pork herding.

[Chemical Ollie]

I kinda like this thread. It invites to both serious posting and spamming.

Hey, the US should give up some land! Give the Marshal Islands to me!!!

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Not all Amerinds were Texan, you know. In most of the country, they wore shirts and slacks and dresses, especially in the winter. What I find surprising is why you Texans don't strip down to your skivies in High Summer.

A couple of points:

A) If you're making some kind of pig farm comment, then no; most Texans were not into pig farming. Cattle and sheep.

B) You make a brash assumption in your surprise of Texas summers.
The fact of the matter is, I run buckass naked through the streets on occasion.

[Boris Godunov]

While it is true that NA culture isn't nearly as rosy as many try to depict it prior to European arrival, Zylka's portrayal is equally as fallacious, making broad generalizations that simply aren't true. I'd encourage you, Z, to read up on the Mississippi Mound culture, the achievements of the Iroqouis nation and several of the South West native cultures that rose and fell over the course of the centuries. The Mound culture, in particular, was quite advanced, as in Cahokia, there were 20,000 people living in a 5-square mile area in 1000 CE. This was a city.

Yes, the NAs often fought bloody wars amongst each other, which wouldn't differentiate them much from the Europeans, who did the same thing.

As to the question, as trollish as it is, my answer is that, what's done is done and the implications of "returning" such land are staggeringly bad. The bottom line is what will benefit most people, and handing over everything and uprooting the nearly 300 million here is, simply, impossible.

Now, were I alive back when Europeans were actually uprooting natives forcefully, I like to think I would be advocating a less aggressive solution to the clash of cultures.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
The fact of the matter is, I run buckass naked through the streets on occasion.

Just having the image of this text seared on my corneas means I must now be excused to go rip my eyeballs out of my head with my bare hands.

[SlowwHand]

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Cruddy
Oh no. You got those as part payment for WW2 Lend Lease. There's no way the UK taxpayers are footing the bill for maintaining those bases.

Well, "you" might not be the correct term as I'm Austrian and the only colony Austria ever held in the Indian Ocean were the Andamans or Nicobars for a few years in the 17th century.

Which citizens are you talking about? Bit vague.

Diego GarcÃa had a certain - not too big - native population until the 1970s but they were expelled from their homes - without having done anything wrong, just because the base was built there - to the Maledives. I guess, some administrator just thought: "Half naked men and half naked men on islands, what's the difference where they live..."
From time to time, some try to get back by boat, but of course the US military doesn't let them return.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


A couple of points:

A) If you're making some kind of pig farm comment, then no; most Texans were not into pig farming. Cattle and sheep.

B) You make a brash assumption in your surprise of Texas summers.
The fact of the matter is, I run buckass naked through the streets on occasion.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Come on. Be realistic.
The American Indians were filthy beasts in loin cloths, and that's the ONLY reasons you find them attractive.
Not because of their culture.

That was suppose to be a secret between you and me and our third playmate!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
I don´t think that the US should give those Lands back it took illegally.

It would be too much of the country, if you consider the Land they took from the american natives.

But the american tribes should be properly remiunerated for the lands they were forced to give up.
There are AFAIK some cases, Indian Tribes against the USA where such a remuneration is demanded. They should be decided in Favor of the Tribes.

That's why there are casinos on indian reservations.



ACK!

[SlowwHand]

Don't forget the Bingo Halls.
Lor-DY! The Bingo Halls.

[Tuberski]

Ther are usually fireworks stands as well. Plus, cheap cigarettes.

ACK!

[Japher]

If they want it they can take it, oh wait they can't! and neither can you... mwahahahaaha.... Or they can buy it back, which it seems like they are working on doing... They have really pissed Nevada off