Why is the USA so afraid of little Belgium ?

[Worthingtons]

Oh come on, you cant seriously consider the French an ally of the US?

[Bereta_Eder]

La France iz en allie ov ze younaited steits oui. throuh nato' extc

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Worthingtons
Oh come on, you cant seriously consider the French an ally of the US?

Yeah. I mean, if it were up to, say, NORTH KOREA....Do you really think THEY would've resuced the Americans? And even if they did....They would probably hold them hostage.

If France is really an enemy, don't you think they wouldve done that?

But this is useless. Your probably part of the crowd saying the US can do no wrong and that the UK is still an empire And that everyone who disagrees with the US is an enemy

[Panag]

Originally posted by Arrian


Bingo. It's lose/lose for the US. I would add this: even if/when the US won, anything "questionable" that was raised at the trial would be harped on for a decade or three as well.

-Arrian

hi ,

how can the US loose , ..... ?

they would actually win

for starters they would no longer have to lend out for free them C-141's or any other long distance transport plane , .... they could cut off the fuel belgium gets for free , ......

and thats just for starters , .....

have a nice day

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by elijah
Like I said, if they have nothing to hide, then they should face it like men, instead of running away. If they are shown to have NOT committed war crimes, think of the political capital gained!

How about if I charge you with vague and unspecified crimes in a Mexican court, and you come here at your own expense to prove your innocence?

Think of the boost in your reputation when you prove your innocence!

Oh, and why isn't this particular brilliant advocate of international law bringing charges against Kim Jong Il, the perpetrators of the Tiananmen square massacre, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hisbullah, Saddam Hussein, the Saudi royal family, and a slew of others?

Oh, he's only interested in posturing against US policy? An excellent reason to submit to such nonsense.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Worthingtons
Oh come on, you cant seriously consider the French an ally of the US?

Since we'd take your side without hesitation if you were attacked, yes.

[Worthingtons]

Tass, I didnt say the French was an Enemy, simply that they can no longer be trusted as allies - you'll find that the War in Iraq overshadowed minor events which you speak of.

[Spiffor]

I have a question to those interested in the case :

As you know it, the trial has been started by individual citizens using a Belgian extraterritorial law. The Belgian court isn't responsible for the cases brought before it.

Question is : did the Belgian court rule out the case for being irrelevant, did it accept the case, or did it say nothing at all for now ?

[Defiant]

Excellent point Mtg, why is only the USA that everybody is looking at, look at the world full of really bad guys, warlords in Africa who kill millions, have they ever been brought to justice. See what I mean, the whole idea is a joke.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Defiant
Excellent point Mtg, why is only the USA that everybody is looking at, look at the world full of really bad guys, warlords in Africa who kill millions, have they ever been brought to justice. See what I mean, the whole idea is a joke.

How do you know no African dictator is being sued with this law ?
We have heard of this law because of Sharon and Franks, but it doesn't mean other cases don't exist. IIRC, there was something with Pinochet too (heard about it when Spain wanted to sue Pinochet), so I wouldn't be surprising if nearly every dissident group exiled in the EU started a case against their dictator.

[Defiant]

First of all show me the link and secondly how do you collect, want to go get him???? And if you do, with who's army?

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I have a question to those interested in the case :

As you know it, the trial has been started by individual citizens using a Belgian extraterritorial law. The Belgian court isn't responsible for the cases brought before it.

Question is : did the Belgian court rule out the case for being irrelevant, did it accept the case, or did it say nothing at all for now ?

Interesting Point.
Especially because AFAIK the belgian court can only pursue cases against people who aren´t citizens of a democracy, which is the same reason why Sharon can´t tried before the belgian court.

And the USA still is a democracy, isn´t it?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Defiant
Excellent point Mtg, why is only the USA that everybody is looking at, look at the world full of really bad guys, warlords in Africa who kill millions, have they ever been brought to justice. See what I mean, the whole idea is a joke.

Are you suggesting that the Belgians are being somewhat hypocritical and disingenuous?

[Defiant]

No, I would never suggest that.

[Colon™]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is the USA so afraid of little Belgium ?

Originally posted by Oerdin


Can you name a single person tried by a military tribunal in the US since the Nazi sabatuers in 1944? I didn't think so especially since one hasn't occured. All Bush has done is point out that under the Geneva & Hague conventions Tribunals are expressly permited.

So Franks won't be convicted, which exactly was the point of sending the trial to an US military tribunal. What are you still *****ing about?