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  • #76
    1984, though i must admit i never seem to find time to just sit and read a book these days. i spend too much time on the computer
    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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    • #77
      "Executive Orders" -- Tom Clancy...

      pretty decent so far, Jack Ryan (of course) is made president after a plane crashes into the Capitol and kills Congress, the Joint Chiefs, the President, his cabinet, the Supreme Court, and a lot of the secret service. The book deals with how Jack is rebuilding the government.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #78
        How could a plane do all that?
        Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
        "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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        • #79
          If the one bullet could do that to Kennedy and Connolly...
          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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          • #80
            pretty decent so far, Jack Ryan (of course) is made president after a plane crashes into the Capitol and kills Congress, the Joint Chiefs, the President, his cabinet, the Supreme Court, and a lot of the secret service. The book deals with how Jack is rebuilding the government.


            You are going to hate it by the end Sava . Just a clue, but you know Tom Clancy is very right wing, right?

            How could a plane do all that?


            During the State of the Union.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              During the State of the Union.
              Nope, someone's always not there for that very reason. Which means that Jack Ryan could be that someone. What position did he hold then?
              Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
              "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                You are going to hate it by the end Sava . Just a clue, but you know Tom Clancy is very right wing, right?
                Yeah, he's a Reagan ass-licker... it bothers me, but I'm not about to boycott somebody because of their politics *COUGHDIXIECHICKS*
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #83
                  Nope, someone's always not there for that very reason. Which means that Jack Ryan could be that someone. What position did he hold then?


                  He was a cabinet member.

                  it bothers me, but I'm not about to boycott somebody because of their politics *COUGHDIXIECHICKS*


                  I own all three of their CDs?

                  And I'm pretty sure you boycott Rush Limbaugh because of his politics .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    He was a cabinet member.
                    no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term
                    I own all three of their CDs?
                    I wasn't referring to you... I was referring to the "boycott the dixie chicks" movement
                    And I'm pretty sure you boycott Rush Limbaugh because of his politics .
                    Rush doesn't have any products that interest me... If Rush wrote sci-fi novels, or anything else that interested me, I probably would buy his stuff if I enjoyed it.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #85
                      no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term


                      That COULDN'T be it! Veep is President of the Senate, so it obligated to be there at the State of the Union. He was just made a Cabinet Minister, IIRC, and was GOING to be the Veep.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term


                        That COULDN'T be it! Veep is President of the Senate, so it obligated to be there at the State of the Union. He was just made a Cabinet Minister, IIRC, and was GOING to be the Veep.
                        Dude, I'm reading the book now... it's very clear. Ryan was the National Security Advisor, but accepted the role as VP, and within a few hours, the plane hit.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #87
                          Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson, the last in his trilogy.

                          In the Clancy books it is kind of funny that Jack Ryan gets all the way from a office guy in the Dept. of State to President because of terrorism (THE BOMB IS IN PLAY!!! )

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                          • #88
                            Dude, I'm reading the book now... it's very clear. Ryan was the National Security Advisor, but accepted the role as VP, and within a few hours, the plane hit.


                            Yeah, it is clear... he was a CABINET MINISTER. Accepting the role doesn't mean a damned thing unless you are confirmed by the Senate (for a vacancy). IIRC, the State of the Union was about this... though I may be off a bit.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Odin
                              In the Clancy books it is kind of funny that Jack Ryan gets all the way from a office guy in the Dept. of State to President because of terrorism (THE BOMB IS IN PLAY!!! )
                              IIRC, Ryan is just the character than Clancy likes to use. But it's weird, he doesn't necessarily follow a linear path.... i.e. the Ryan in Sum of All Fears wasn't the same Ryan in any of the other movies/books. It's the same character put in different situations.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Sava
                                IIRC, Ryan is just the character than Clancy likes to use. But it's weird, he doesn't necessarily follow a linear path.... i.e. the Ryan in Sum of All Fears wasn't the same Ryan in any of the other movies/books. It's the same character put in different situations.
                                Yes it was the same character.

                                Not in the movies but in the book he is the same.

                                ACK!
                                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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