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Originally posted by The diplomat
Extraterrestrial life does not exist. So, the question is mute!
And that conclusion is based on?
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
Just a thought, but perhaps it's based on the total lack of evidence of the opposite...
It's rather amusing watching these debates unfold BTW. The usual hardcore agnostics and what have you suddenly aren't the least bit doubtful when it comes to aliens.
Originally posted by Sava
moot... my linguistically challenged friend
I just realized the terrible mispelling
'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
Originally posted by Winston
Just a thought, but perhaps it's based on the total lack of evidence of the opposite...
It's rather amusing watching these debates unfold BTW. The usual hardcore agnostics and what have you suddenly aren't the least bit doubtful when it comes to aliens.
It's almost religious...
Part of being an aethist is a lack in belief in miracles. Given the sheer number of stars in the universe, and given recent discoveries about just how plentyful planets may be, to believe only one planet in one star system in the entire universe gave birth to life is the one possibility that borders on the absurd (read, divine). I think the exploration of Europa will be very interesting.
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
Originally posted by Winston
Just a thought, but perhaps it's based on the total lack of evidence of the opposite...
It's rather amusing watching these debates unfold BTW. The usual hardcore agnostics and what have you suddenly aren't the least bit doubtful when it comes to aliens.
It's almost religious...
If the universe is infinite and assuming there isn't a God behind everything, there is life somewhere else out there. It's just a question of how far away it is.
Originally posted by GePap
Actually, that is an utterly illogical assumption, given how even two different human beings can so utterly msunderstand one another.
You do know you've made my point, right?
Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.
Originally posted by Sava
If the universe is infinite and assuming there isn't a God behind everything, there is life somewhere else out there. It's just a question of how far away it is.
Not to mention, how when away it is/was/will be Logically, life in the universe is plentiful , but intelligent life is rare, and due to it's nature, cannot stand still. Either it has wiped itself out, has stood still, or has evolved into something else, like bananas. Damn! The dreaded moron disease has struck again!!
Winston, I am agnostic, and don't believe in UFO's. Belief in UFO's should not be differentiated against belief in leprechauns, dragons, fairies, and religion in general for that matter However, to grandly claim as "preposterous", the notion that intelligent alien beings are beyond the realm of possibility is as closed-minded as it gets, and is based on cultural/religious beliefs as much as anything else.
And Lonestar, i would gladly read your thesis BRING IT ON!!
Also, I see that i've opened up a can of worms. Good
if life does exist elsewhere in the universe, it's likely that we'd be unable to communicate, let alone understand, their motives, cultures, or even their existance or not; after all, we have evolution pushing us one way--what is to say evolution did not push another species a different way, so that look like matresses, or like rocks?
it's conceivable we'd never even notice them at first.
You all do know that belief in UFOs isn't required, right? UFOs do exist. Whether UFOs are flying saucers with little green men in them is a whole different story.
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