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  • #16
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    It would probably be less likely to succeed. With proper backup, however, not too risky.
    It would be more likely to put the fear of Allah in the people left alive when it did succeed though.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #17
      I just want to clarify that I completely support assassinating Hamas leaders. I was just wondering if there was another way of doing it other than firing missiles, seeing as how missiles can accidently kill innocent bystanders if they miss.
      'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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      • #18
        Che, man of controversy.
        Whatever makes sense, he's against.

        Politics-wise, you suck.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #19
          They use missiles and bombs for the surprise element, to keep their quarry from escaping. It's probable rather likely they also are tyring to nab people when they can.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #20
            Hamas has vowed "retaliation". Once again the cycle of kill and kill again continues. There is no doubt that Hamas must stop terrorism and that their leaders need to be accountable. If peace is to actually happen then the Palestinians must police themselves and deal with Hamas. If they are unable or unwilling, then what choice does Israel have other than to take such measures to protect herself?
            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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            • #21
              Yip, great way to encourage Hamas to a cease-fire, try to kill their spokesman.....very smart....yup, brilliant...obviosuly both sides want peace....
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              • #22
                Originally posted by GePap
                Yip, great way to encourage Hamas to a cease-fire, try to kill their spokesman.....very smart....yup, brilliant...obviosuly both sides want peace....
                GePap, I agree in principle. The reality is somewhat different. Hamas has stated that they will not abide by any cease-fire with Israel. The Palestinians are eithier unwilling or unable to control them. I'll ask again...What choice do the Israeli's have?
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • #23
                  Every innocent bystander is a potential future Hamas spokesman. The preemptive swatter is sure effective.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand
                    Che, man of controversy.
                    Whatever makes sense, he's against.

                    Politics-wise, you suck.
                    Killing innocent by-standers makes sense?
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
                      Every innocent bystander is a potential future Hamas spokesman. The preemptive swatter is sure effective.
                      Every innocent bystander is a future militant Israeli settler.
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by PLATO1003


                        GePap, I agree in principle. The reality is somewhat different. Hamas has stated that they will not abide by any cease-fire with Israel. The Palestinians are eithier unwilling or unable to control them. I'll ask again...What choice do the Israeli's have?
                        I don't know..rule of law, respect of human rights, civil right? Israel is the ONLY state that does this sort of things as basic policy. The US has been the second only one to try stunts like this, but we assidiously avoid attacks such as this anywhere within miles of any populated area, and the fact is that Israel is not even the numer one victim of terrorism, not in number of attacks over the years, not in the numbers of killed. What we have is a policy based on the notion that oly thorugh fear can they "be taught" and only trhough direct violence, and for an eye, can "justice" be done. Well, i don;t buy either. All that killing of people by Irsaeli has only slowed down new attacks, but they have not, nor are they about to ever, bring peace. You think the family of the men you blow up in the Territories wants blood any less than the families of people who get blown up in Israel? And if Israelis have the right to "kill those that kill Jews", well then, under what insane notion do you think Pal's are denied that same "right"?

                        There is no such things as the inevitable. Israel chooses to deal with Palestinains violently. That has been state policy for decades. And it has done nothing. Even if they get this guy, Hamas won;t get a new spokesman? Bullsh1t.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
                        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara Killing innocent by-standers makes sense?
                          To Hamas it does. Or do you consider the Israeli citizens that have died at their hands not to be innocent?
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PLATO1003
                            To Hamas it does. Or do you consider the Israeli citizens that have died at their hands not to be innocent?
                            Well, that brings up a question: we had no thread on the Pal attack agains the Gaza IDF outposts: was the because it did not fit the "definition of oterrorism" people have created here in Poly?
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PLATO1003
                              To Hamas it does. Or do you consider the Israeli citizens that have died at their hands not to be innocent?
                              This is relevent to my comment how?
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GePap
                                Israel is the ONLY state that does this sort of things as basic policy. The US has been the second only one to try stunts like this, but we assidiously avoid attacks such as this anywhere within miles of any populated area,
                                Did you watch the same war I watched? As many as 1,500 Bahgdad civilians were killed in the bombing according to local hospitals.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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