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Originally posted by MRT144
thats cause youre crazy pinko commies
thats cause youre crazy pinko commies
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Well, yeah.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
Go to the Netherlands or Norway. They allow gay marraiges.Originally posted by Starchild
And frankly, I want to get married one day. I don't want to be civil unionised. Yeah, civil unions are a step forward but they're not the goal.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Getting hitched at city hall isn't enough for you?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, Bunnygrrl and I would rather have a civil union than a marriage.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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maybe he wants to be a normal person one day and marry a woman.Comment
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Don't they allow it in some US states?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Go to the Netherlands or Norway. They allow gay marraiges.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Yes but that totally disrupts my plans to be married in the english garden of an aristocratic manor, with both of us in modern tuxes, my family seated on the right, his on the left, have a witness from the register's office observe, exchange rings with the words "With this ring" on the outside and "I thy wed" on the inside (white gold rings of course!), have the floral display be white roses, serve Vietnamese spring rolls to start followed by a choice between roast pork served on a bed of greens with roast potatos or salmon in a lemon and pepper sauce with stirfried bok choy and finish with a dessert of fresh summer fruits (this wedding shall be in July I say JULY!), and have Charlotte Church sing for us.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Go to the Netherlands or Norway. They allow gay marraiges.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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Better a bone than a brick.Originally posted by Starchild
Cause it's a mallard instead of a duck? If it has all the rights of marriage, why not simply call it marriage? Why call it "civil unions", a term that drips with the implied notion of "pretend marriage for those people". A special catagory created by fiat can just as easily be uncreated. Instead of being included in a centuries old tradition that acknowledges long term relationships as an important part of society, we're getting a bone thrown to us.
Part of the reason for those benefits (pension et al) going to married couples is to encourage stability in families.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but gay couples have never produced any babies. OK, lesbian couples have - but to the majority of the politicians and Church people, this is the sticking point.
If we start encouraging marriage for purposes other than having kids in a stable environment, it doesn't really say a lot for society, does it?
By not calling it marriage the govt is ducking the bullet and giving a sop to those right wingers. It's not what any side wants - compromises never are.
But if it gives more equality and justice, I'm for it. It might even encourage more straight people to get married, because now the subject is being debated and listed in the papers.Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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sounds like a lovely plan, except for the charlotte church part. shes a wench anyway.
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Didn't you hear him say that he doesn't want a civil union?Originally posted by Fez
Don't they allow it in some US states?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Why your family on the right? Are you the symbolic groom? Why not the symbolic bride?If you don't like reality, change it! me
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It's a subtle irony based on what's going to happen during the honeymoon.Originally posted by GePap
Why your family on the right? Are you the symbolic groom? Why not the symbolic bride?
So good to know marriage is about breeding. Dang and darn all those infertile couples and those selfish ones that dont' want to have kids.Originally posted by Cruddy
Part of the reason for those benefits (pension et al) going to married couples is to encourage stability in families.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but gay couples have never produced any babies. OK, lesbian couples have - but to the majority of the politicians and Church people, this is the sticking point.
If we start encouraging marriage for purposes other than having kids in a stable environment, it doesn't really say a lot for society, does it?
And who says I won't adopt?
Smookie, if we're going to get into what the Church thinks, they've got to give me an adaquate explanation on why they wear clothing made from two different materials (abomination!) before they can dictate to me what I do when it comes to love.
Besides, I can argue that a double income no kids (DINK) marriage typical of gay relationships would be far more beneficial to society in terms of the economy than the rather costly choice of children.
But I get what you're saying about compromise. Civil unions are a step forward but that doesn't mean we get to stop running.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard DawkinsComment
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Another way to make everybody equal, whatever is their sexual orientation is to suppress the marriage status. Apparently its only justification is to give rights to some priviledged people.
Statistical anomaly.
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Thats still is unbalanced against single people.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
There's an obvious answer to negate any form of unbalance. Allow gay marriage.
I think you should just be able to nominate any person(s) to be your beneficiary or partner for any given issue. Leave marriage to be a social issue, not a legal one.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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You can. The problem comes when no will has been written up in advance ("of course we're never going to die and our love will last forever" - WRONG).Originally posted by Big Crunch
Thats still is unbalanced against single people.
I think you should just be able to nominate any person(s) to be your beneficiary or partner for any given issue. Leave marriage to be a social issue, not a legal one.Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
"The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84Comment
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You can. The problem comes when no will has been written up in advance
Not in all circumstances. Take inheritance tax on death estates, as you have just raised the will inheritance issue.
A husband or wife can leave all their possessions to their spouse, whether they are jointly or individually owned, and no tax has to be paid on the transfer.
Leave those possession to any other person and the residual legatee is liable to pay inheritance tax of 40% on the taxable transfers.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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