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  • #16
    Re: Emigration to the states?

    Originally posted by Rothy
    Ok, a Question for anybody that knows.
    Some day in my life, after I have graduated from University I would like to come and live in the greatest Nation on Earth - the USA.
    But how do I do this legally?
    I dont just want to work there for a while but actually become a US citizen so i have permanent stay.
    How does the US select immigrants?? what kind of qualifications/experience would i require to get a green card?
    Cheers
    I don't think its very hard to get US citizenship if you come from great Britain unless you have issues such as a significant criminal record or something. Quotas are major issues for countries like China, the US is not worried about the flood of immigrants from the UK. The fact you have a university education should work in your favor. Your best bet might be to come over originally on a green card after getting a job at a US company, and start working on the process of getting citizenship once you do so.

    I wouldn't take most of these responses seriously, its not that hard to get US citizenship for well educated UK citizens.

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    • #17
      my cousin has been living in california for the last year or so, loves it there, but i think he's been staying on temporary work permits and visas, bloody hard to become a citizen. ask calistaga (which i have, no doubt, spelled wrong) about what it took him, since he is from NZ but now a US citizen.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #18
        The reason for the US immigration laws to be so complex is due to its history as a way of keeping catolics away without explicity saying so. As long as you're a wasp, you'll do fine.

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        • #19
          Rothy, say you´re Rothy and you´re a regular poster on Apolyton Off Topic. after checking they will be pleased to take you.
          justice is might

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            We don't let in Commies either.
            Nah, my mom answered yes to the "Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" question and still got in fine.
            "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
            -Joan Robinson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pekka
              In order to do that, you need to be saint, if you tasted cigarrette at the age of 10, you might be turned down.
              Make sure you're millionaire and that you have triple PhDs, and you must have under 4% body fat.
              You can't come alone, you have to have a wife so you don't take away the girls from native citizens.
              You must have a job already, so you don't cramp the system, and it has to be a big company like Microsoft, because if it doesn't have more than 60 trillion dollar exchange, it can't be trusted.
              You have to hate commies and preferrably killed one, confirmed. If someone in your family has ever been sick of fever, you can't come, you might kill the natives with your dirty bacteria.

              You have to score 170 at mensa regulated IQ test while Justin Timberlakes newest hit is playing at 120 dbs, and your blood pressure will be monitored, you have to stay calm or you fail.
              You have to know top 20 hits playing in the MTV, not MTV Europe(!!!).
              This is the first stage, second stage is more physical.
              35 chin ups with 10 kilo bags hanging in your legs, 600 sit ups with in 45 minutes (incomplete sit ups will result to electric shocks, most likely to kill a small baby or one with heart conditions), rope climbing with hands only (about 10 meters long rope, you must go up and down 4 times). 12 minute run, you must go at least 2.5 miles with a hangover and gasmask on your head. If you make it, you'll get an interview on swahili, you must answer every question as this will decide your fate. Questions varies from 'who was the 9828th president' to 'what was my great great great grandfathers rank in the civil war'.
              Now, you made it! The last one is 10 grown men beating you like a pig, with sticks and electric shock devices, knives and chains. They ask you after 60 minutes of beating (if you are alive) if you still want to come. If you do, you're in! Woohoo!
              If you fail at ANY stage of selection, you will be sent back immidately after beatings, naked and you can never come back.

              But you can't own a car for the first 10 years, or have credit card, or vote, or have conversation with the natives.

              Oh.. and this was before 9/11..
              The US isn't that strict...Australia is though
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #22
                Be warned however, they have no sence of humour in the US.* A woman told me about a friend of hers that to get the visa to the US had to answer that list of number of moronic questions. They are the likes of "are you planning to sell illegal drugs in the US?" and so forth. When the friend got to the question about if she was planning to assassinate the president of the united states she couldn't hold it back and put down yes as the answer. She didn't come in.


                * Yes, I know. Hardly news for us non-american posters.

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                • #23
                  "Are you, have you ever been or will you ever be a communist?"

                  "Nyet"
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #24
                    Kropotkin, yeah, but what if the president would have been assassinated? That official who checked the visa application would have been in so much trouble..
                    In da butt.
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                    • #25
                      that was a joke too
                      In da butt.
                      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                      • #26
                        I'll bet they are kicking themselves for not having a question about flying airplanes into skyscapers as well. That would have solved a lot of problems.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cruddy


                          IIRC it's done on a quota system. Is it 50000? or 5000? Anyway, each country has a maximum number of applicants and if you're after that in a particular year you won't make it that year. End of story.

                          Also, things like criminal convictions and membership of certain organisations can either hinder or help your application.

                          For instance, if you've been convicted of "subversive activity" in a dictatorship, that would help.

                          If you've been convicted of importing cocaine, that would hinder.

                          So there's lots of reasons to decline a hard working Brit.
                          If you can manage to get yourself first order related to an American (spouse, parent, sibling) I think you can get around the quota system. Certain professions, like physician or computer programmer, have an easier time gettting in too.
                          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                          • #28
                            You could always just marry some little hottie and then your immigration problems would be solved.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #29
                              Brits should never worry about quota. As long as Cruddy hasn't done anything criminal on record, his immigration into the US is guaranteed.

                              However, he still has to do all the paperwork and put up with the annoying INS. Trips to INS offices are always a nightmare.

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                              • #30
                                Sounds Great Oerdin but my gf of 1.5 years would object

                                Thanks for the Replies anyway, I dont have any criminal records and I dont belong to any dodgy organisations so i dont that'll be a problem, Seems the best plan is to start working for a US based company, I could probably get a Job at Capital One tommorow and I'm sure there's plenty more not too far away.

                                An extreme anti communist country, sounds like heaven!
                                Up The Millers

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