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  • #46
    Could someone please explain mouse gestures to me? Apparently they're fantastic, and if someone can tell me why they're that good I'll switch to a browser that uses them.
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    • #47


      Sorry, I would explain more fully, but have to run now. That site should help.

      Bear in mind that in the latest version of Opera you can customise the mouse gesutres to suit your own needs.
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      • #48
        actually, bollocks to that. This link is better: http://www.opera.com/features/mouse/index.dml

        If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Agathon


          Couldn't resist it, could you?
          You indirectly insult IE with your first elitist post and you expect Asher not to respond?

          You just basically asked for another Mac-PC debate eithout directly saying PC sucks.

          Anyway, congratulations on turning a thread on tabs into some anti-Macintosh rant.


          Give it a break will ya? its obvious that all you wanted was asher to reply to ur first post.
          :-p

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          • #50
            I'm quite unable to live without tabbed browsing nowadays, and usually use no more than two windows in a browser that doesn't support tabs simply because I find it awkward to switch between them. Ctrl-tab, ctrl-chift-tab, ctr-t and ctrl-f4 are hardwired to my fingers. I open everything in new tabs. In fact, since the window manager I'm currently using doesn't have a taskbar nor any useful features to make having several windows on one workspace easier (snap-to-border, automatic positioning of new windows to avoid getting on top of old ones, titlebars), Mozilla's tabs are pretty much the only way of keeping several things on a single virtual desktop that I use.
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            • #51
              I really, really like tabbed browsers, but if Microsoft and Asher say otherwise, then I must be mistaken.
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              • #52
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                • #53
                  Tabs rule. Such an obvious improvement for those of us who tend to keep (*quick count*) 21 windows open at the same time.

                  But it's not the MS way so it must be wrong.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Zero

                    You just basically asked for another Mac-PC debate eithout directly saying PC sucks.
                    What's wrong with Mozilla for Windows?

                    Anyway, congratulations on turning a thread on tabs into some anti-Macintosh rant.


                    Give it a break will ya? its obvious that all you wanted was asher to reply to ur first post.
                    No - I'd actually rather he hadn't since this was supposed to be about tabs and not the Macintosh (which doesn't offer tabs on all its browsers).

                    Anyway - sorry Cruddy - I was only joking. You are right you were ignorant, not stupid.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      I can use both. I really don't care one way or another.

                      I can see how awesome it'd be on the Mac when you're used to a braindead Dock, though.

                      In Windows is mostly a non-issue, since the taskbar lists all active windows so it's like having the tabs anyway.

                      Soon enough, you'll realize that the idea behind "tabbed browsing" can be extended to your whole computer, via the taskbar, and you'll wonder how you did without it.

                      And for the record, MS is moving away from MDI and will never implement tabbed browsing in IE. Look at Office, how it moved from MDI to MTI in 2000 and XP.

                      Usability studies have proven that MDIs are actually less effective in terms of functional use and ease of use. Hence why your Word docs now take up their own space on the taskbar rather than just a sub-window inside as Word taskbar entry. It's still under the same process, though.
                      And I cursed that fact with Office 2000 - they should have made it optional with Word as they did with Excel - fortunatley I don't work with this anymore... study my a$$ - there is always a percentage of people who will be worse off, and I was in that one at the time... all such decisions should be an - option, that you can at least switch to the old way of doing things if they made the "newer approach" default...
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                      • #56
                        Love tabs, love Opera.

                        I only use IE when I need to d/l loads of .jpgs/flash animations with FlashGet.
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                        • #57
                          I just DLed Opera, and it's good... but it seems to freeze up whenever I check my email (web based email). And I can't get Quicktime to integrate with it. Maybe I'll stick with IE...
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                          • #58
                            Strange, QuickTime works just fine in my Opera...

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                            • #59
                              Never tried Opera although I mean to some day. Mozilla and QuickTime work fine together.

                              If MS really cared about usability, they'd have a nice little checkbox to disable popups just like Mozilla and Opera do.

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                              • #60
                                Yeah, I redownloaded it (it being Quicktime), and it still is giving me trouble. I don't know what is wrong.
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