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  • #31
    I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq...

    Plus, there is still a lot of the the country that hasn't been checked out yet... So there is still a chance that the proof of WOMD will be found...

    While I will wait to see what the facts will eventually show, it seems like many people don't really care and have made their minds up already

    I'm not saying that they will find something to satisfy people... I'm just going to give them a legitimate chance to find it. For all you know... the evidence may have been removed from the country before the war even started... Iraq sure had plenty of warning about the war...

    Yeah... they may all be lying polilticans... but I will wait for proof of it
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #32
      Once George wanted Saddam's head on a pole
      and little Tony played his poodle role
      about weapons of horrors was their cry
      now it's plain that was a fat lie
      so the poodle is in one deep hole
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #33
        "they may all be lying polilticans... but I will wait for proof of it. "

        Their lips are moving, aren't they?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ming
          I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq...

          Plus, there is still a lot of the the country that hasn't been checked out yet... So there is still a chance that the proof of WOMD will be found...
          That's one issue, but not the issue. They said they know a lot about Saddam's weapons, they gave a lot of details (like Blair's 45 minute notice). As they can't even find one shred of that after weeks now, it's clear they lied. At best they had no clue.
          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JohnT
            Their lips are moving, aren't they?
            Good point
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #36
              that doesn't even rhyme.
              It doesnt have to .. its Art
              Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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              • #37
                Question: What does it matter?

                I know that we said there was stuff over there, but what if there isn't? What will happen? Will someone go to UN jail? Will there be sanctions placed on the US? What!?
                Monkey!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ming
                  I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq...
                  Given that that:

                  a. No materials at all were found on the labs
                  b. materials and equipment that would be crucial to making them successful bio-lab facilties have neither been found(if they exist at all);

                  All that can be done now is to say that for ONE (just one) of the claims made, there seems to have been evidence.

                  NOw they just have to prove a dozen or more claims, you know, the important ones.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • #39
                    Mobile labs, shmobile labs... the reports I've seen have said that they haven't found a trace of even one pathogen.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Japher
                      Question: What does it matter?

                      I know that we said there was stuff over there, but what if there isn't? What will happen? Will someone go to UN jail? Will there be sanctions placed on the US? What!?
                      Well, the point f this thread is that Tony might, if things get ugly in the next few months (and nothing trully is found), lose his job. (Aznar is probalby on the way out too), meaning that the next time Bush decides to go to war,states will be much less willing to join, if the claims to that war are based on 'US intelliegence'.
                      If you don't like reality, change it! me
                      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Azazel
                        that doesn't even rhyme.
                        IN that case neither does the Jack and Jill nursery rhyme.

                        Crown rhymes with down.
                        Lying rhymes with laughing.

                        Wheres the problem?
                        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                        • #42
                          lying also rhymes with Republican
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sava
                              lying also rhymes with Republican
                              No it doesn't.

                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sava
                                lying also rhymes with Republican
                                Come on Sava... you've been warned not to turn EVERY thread into an anti republican thread...

                                There are more than enough threads on that already...
                                Keep on Civin'
                                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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