Neutron Bombs

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by Azazel
*whistles*

Quick Panag! Phone MOSSAD!

Originally posted by Azazel

seriously, though, comm sats, like TV, radio, and cellphone sats work only regionally, not globally.

Fair point. I was trying to think of an economic reason for a satellite network rather than spy sat network or as you pointed out, a cluster over Israel.

You've got to admit though, not all your satellites will be commercial - far from it.

[Whaleboy]

Heres an interesting idea....

Whilst waiting for a bus in traditional British weather, "gods urine" gave me a bit of a disturbing insight.

Neutron bombs will cause more damage than conventional warheads. If most of the energy of the blast is alpha, beta or gamma rays (radiation), and thus a small impact is created, not only will it kill all human and animal life, it will kill most if not all plant and bacterial life. If its powerful, DNA will be broken down into its constituent parts, and then reform into nitrous oxide, carbon monoxide among others. The entire area will be ecologically decimated, unable to support life, and be polluted to a much greater extent than a conventional nuke. A similar effect will happen to the air, and will quickly form nitric acid when mixes with the rain, thus rendering the ground utterly useless.

Truly brings home the notion that in war, all one wins is ash (and possibly radiation-resistance amoebas).

[Az]

elijah: I am afraid not. The amounts of NOx created by cars will outweigh it. By far. Carbon Mono-Oxide is unstable, and will react to form safer forms. ( safer is a funny word, since it's only dangerous to humans, because they "damage" blood cells, while won't affect, say, vegetation).

Besides, so far, all of these are gases. They'll wash around in the atmosphere.

Try again.

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

pffff , the ss-18 can not even come close to a one mile predet target , ....

With 10 MIRVS, why would it need to hit 1 mile target? Or even a 5 mile target?

Originally posted by panag
and those silo's would need grease to open the rusted doors , .....

how many times did the people in the silo's stole the fuel for the rockets , ..... and sold it on the market

Given the fuel reserves, I don't really think this is a long term problem. Do you really believe it is?

Originally posted by panag
the russian backed down around 1960 , .... no way they are ever going to send one our way , .... unless they are all willing to die , .....

That's no reason to extract the urine out of them, is it. You might just find some of them don't have a sense of humour.

Originally posted by panag 150 , nope , all you need is 48 sim detonations at special spots on this planet to destroy it , .....

A neat trick if you can manage it. 48 simultaneous hits with ICBMs? What's the chances of that? Pretty low. Where's the link? I'm pretty sure it's thinking along the lines of H-bombs, not A-bombs. Of course, you would need ground bursts, not air bursts.

Originally posted by panag at least we are the only people on this planet that has everyone protected against any NBC weapon , ....

You'd want to SURVIVE such an event? Either you plan to wipe out all life or you don't. Make your mind up. I have been told the Swiss civil defence programme is pretty good too. Then again they don't have a rich sugar daddy who pays for whatever they want.

[Az]

not all your satellites will be commercial - far from it.

Most of them aren't.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy


Quick Panag! Phone MOSSAD!



Fair point. I was trying to think of an economic reason for a satellite network rather than spy sat network or as you pointed out, a cluster over Israel.

You've got to admit though, not all your satellites will be commercial - far from it.

hi ,

phone who you got the number maybe , ....

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy


These estimates (100-400) are based on the size of the cooling towers at Dimona assuming they are 100% efficient.

As they clearly can't be, less than 400 would be the smart guess.

Unless of course, you have found a way to conceal a reactor's IR emissions. A good trick that would be.



I guess your treatment of Mordecai Vanunu left no one in any doubt as to what would happen to any whistle blowers - but there are plenty of US citizens who challenge and criticise some of Israel's behaviour. Hence the amount of conjecture and speculation - the more you hide a secret, the more people want to know why (and why you're hiding it, of course).



Global Hebrew satellite TV? I'm trying to think of a non-military application here and I'm having problems.

hi ,

even van does not know it all , ....

van a whistle blower , pfffff , ...... is that all the world has as proof , ....

they dont even know how many reactors we have

hide a secret , what secret , ....

if you dont even mark a document "secret" , .... there is no secret document to be found , ....

yes , whats wrong with our sat tv's , ....

at least we say when we launch a new spy sat , .... unlike some , ....

have a nice day

this is a fun thread

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy


With 10 MIRVS, why would it need to hit 1 mile target? Or even a 5 mile target?



Given the fuel reserves, I don't really think this is a long term problem. Do you really believe it is?



That's no reason to extract the urine out of them, is it. You might just find some of them don't have a sense of humour.



A neat trick if you can manage it. 48 simultaneous hits with ICBMs? What's the chances of that? Pretty low. Where's the link? I'm pretty sure it's thinking along the lines of H-bombs, not A-bombs. Of course, you would need ground bursts, not air bursts.



You'd want to SURVIVE such an event? Either you plan to wipe out all life or you don't. Make your mind up. I have been told the Swiss civil defence programme is pretty good too. Then again they don't have a rich sugar daddy who pays for whatever they want.

hi ,

manage 48 sim detonations , no problem , take a 48 Israeli icbm's and its done , .....

and no , you need air bursts , ....

swiss , they dont even have gasmasks for all , ..... , let alone the bunkers , ....

they are by far to occupied by hiding the nazigold from our ancestors then to protect the people , ....

have a nice day

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by panag



hi ,

manage 48 sim detonations , no problem , take a 48 Israeli icbm's and its done , .....

and no , you need air bursts , ....

I am curious as to this method. The energy involved is far lower than a size 7 earthquake. Please give me a link or at least a book title which explains this method. I'm also curious as to why you think it's possible to launch at 48 different targets and detonate simultaneously.

Originally posted by panag

swiss , they dont even have gasmasks for all , ..... , let alone the bunkers , ....

they are by far to occupied by hiding the nazigold from our ancestors then to protect the people , ....

Who needs gasmasks when you have filtered air plants on your bunkers? Also, gas mask filters have to be replaced. You sure you got enough carbon to go around until the fallout gets down to a survivable level?

The Swiss I've met don't hide their own or anyone else's gold. If they've got it, they flaunt it.

Also, the links I posted earlier give some good reasons why Israel is unlikely to posses any neutron bombs. Could the basis of this thread be jealousy? "Thou shalt not covet"... I'm sure you know this.

As for Hebrew sattellite TV, if you think the market is there, go for it. The dialogue could be pretty good. Just don't forget the subtitles because my Hebrew is next to nothing.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy


I am curious as to this method. The energy involved is far lower than a size 7 earthquake. Please give me a link or at least a book title which explains this method. I'm also curious as to why you think it's possible to launch at 48 different targets and detonate simultaneously.



Who needs gasmasks when you have filtered air plants on your bunkers? Also, gas mask filters have to be replaced. You sure you got enough carbon to go around until the fallout gets down to a survivable level?

The Swiss I've met don't hide their own or anyone else's gold. If they've got it, they flaunt it.

Also, the links I posted earlier give some good reasons why Israel is unlikely to posses any neutron bombs. Could the basis of this thread be jealousy? "Thou shalt not covet"... I'm sure you know this.

As for Hebrew sattellite TV, if you think the market is there, go for it. The dialogue could be pretty good. Just don't forget the subtitles because my Hebrew is next to nothing.

hi ,

everyone has plenty of spare parts and pieces , dont worry , we are prepared , ....

do you believe that a website , or anyone for that matter has insight as to what we have , what we do , ..... forget it , even we as normal Israeli people , in or not in the armed forces have no idea , but one thing is for certain , we have them , .....

oh yeah , are those pics all the can come up with , .....



have a nice day

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by panag


do you believe that a website , or anyone for that matter has insight as to what we have , what we do , ..... forget it , even we as normal Israeli people , in or not in the armed forces have no idea , but one thing is for certain , we have them , .....

oh yeah , are those pics all the can come up with , .....

Those web sites I listed are based on research done by professional people. They are estimates, based on observed data. They are not crank sites or conspiracy sites.

I never doubted Israel had nukes. It would be a bit pointless to import 600 tons of uranium from South Africa and just look at it.

[raghar]

Originally posted by panag


armor and kill the people , the amount of electrical parts that are destroyed are to great , ......

a unit com with a mobile scud launcher with a nuke could not use it , ....... the fire and control of the artillery in the rear would be destroyed , etc , ......

You are wrong, Russians equipment would be in pretty much nice shape. Their equipment was EMP hardened. You know they expected first strike from US so common sense kicked in and... not all theirs electronic was silicon based.

re amount of nukes
Have you seen photo of that nuclear facility? Pretty nice for guessing amount of nukes.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Cruddy


Those web sites I listed are based on research done by professional people. They are estimates, based on observed data. They are not crank sites or conspiracy sites.

I never doubted Israel had nukes. It would be a bit pointless to import 600 tons of uranium from South Africa and just look at it.

hi ,

only that , pffff , that aint a lot , ..... iraq got more

btw , the estimates are wrong , like mentioned above , they dont even say how many reactors we have , ....

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by raghar

You are wrong, Russians equipment would be in pretty much nice shape. Their equipment was EMP hardened. You know they expected first strike from US so common sense kicked in and... not all theirs electronic was silicon based.

re amount of nukes
Have you seen photo of that nuclear facility? Pretty nice for guessing amount of nukes.

hi ,

seen the shape of the equipment nowadays , ....

most of the older versions , and even the new ones are not , repeat not hardened in order to save money , .....

the pics , pffff , old stuff , they cant post new pics

not to mention that they put the ball wrong , .....

they think in european and american terms , .....

not in Israeli terms , .....

example , they work 8 hours a day , if we need something we work 24 hours a day , thats the difference , ......

have a nice day

[Proteus_MST]

I wouldn´t want to be near your Nuclear Reactors if your Workers in there are working 24 Hours a day