France issues 'please explain' to US

[vee4473]

Originally posted by GePap
I doubt the francophobia will subside in the US: the Iraqis were never a good enemy, and lord knows the admin. will never mention his name again, so they need someone to pick on, and since france bashing is so well established, well, there you go.

As if it isn't well founded.

like france was just picked out of a hat to pick on...

[Spiffor]

Vee :
Care to explain to me why it was well founded ?

[GePap]

For all the poele who want to punish France for actively wrking against the second resolution:
As of Today, given all we know, THE FRENCH WERE RIGHT. no, I don;t mean just within their rights, but CORRECT. The US-UK-Spain argument was that the threat form Iraq and its undeclared WMD program was immense, its ties to international terrorism immense, so mcuh so that the international community had tpo call and end to it.The French arguement was that the Iraqi threat could be solved peacefully, with some more time. fast forward 2-3 months. What do we know as of today? That the threat form Iraq's iregular weapons was vastly exagerated, and ties to Al Qaeda remain obscure, if they exist at all (Remember Ansar? has anyone yet stated that they foudn docs. saying there was a tie between them and Baghdad? its been 2 months people!).

"liberating Iraq" was never something that would gain UN approval, since the UN has no power to call for the overthrow of the regime of any member states. The only issue up to the UN was to judge Iraq's relative compliance with UN resolutions, what dsort of threat it was and to act accordingly. The second resolution deserved to be defeated, if only because it was wrong in its assumptyions of the threat. Over 50% of American now say they don;t crae if WMD's are found. But what if the war had had UN backing? what sort of repercussions would this fact have had then? Would not the Us have had to show thse weapons, to justify a war in the name of the UN that it had just carried out?

The French handed George W a huge political bonus: he gets to blame the french for his own diplomatic failures (cause the Us never even got the 9 votes), but now that no WMD's have been found, he can say :"who gives a hoot, it was all about "Iraqi Liberty"! if the French deserve to be punished, it is for that, but not for defeating a resolution that history shows us was wrong.

[Spiffor]

ties to Al Qaeda remain obscure, if they exist at all (Remember Ansar? has anyone yet stated that they foudn docs. saying there was a tie between them and Baghdad? its been 2 months people!).

The telegraph did

[Spiffor]

And I really really wanted the 500th post of this thread

[GePap]

Sorry buddy, that honor is mine!!!

[Spiffor]

No, you have the 500th reply
The number of replies doesn't take the first post into account

[DinoDoc]

Damn you people! I was hoping to drag a real response out of Roland.

[Spiffor]

A response to what ?

Edit : before the thread is closed, I must tell I loved the reference to Fashoda. Chances are this incident will indeed be as significant as Fashoda in history.

[DinoDoc]

Fashoda?

[Ming]

Over 500 posts...

Case Closed