Can someone tell me why PBS no longer recieves government funding?

[Shi Huangdi]

"We can't even debate the subject, so were resorting to "Well......You lost! Nya nya nya nya nya nya!!!". A red herring, a debate fallacy Thats ok Imran. I'm always really nice so I'll just let you off the hook. Come back if you want to debaet it."

Actually Imran is right. I never said that anything that can't survive in the market should sink, only TV stations that can't survive in the market should sink. You however, above said: "If it cannot survive in todays market, as Shi said, it must sink." when I affect I never said I wanted everything they can't survive in the market to sink. The fact that you are inventing arguments on our side to answer rather then answering our real arguments indicate you have once again lost.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

and provides so much in return. Because if it helps just one child....It's accomplished its job.

So much in return? In what sense? I mean, really most kids usually just watched Seseme Street and Mr. Rogers and that was it. Those shows are extremely cheap.

Yes, and educational. And yes, it is a cheap. You really don't lose much money on it, and you WILL be getting a tax cut, SOO.........

Why should I pay for the channel to show operas and foriegn films? Who does that really teach?

Why should you pay for the government to find out what the sound of a rocket does to cows? There are SOOOO Many more things we could cut that are absolutely useless.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
"We can't even debate the subject, so were resorting to "Well......You lost! Nya nya nya nya nya nya!!!". A red herring, a debate fallacy Thats ok Imran. I'm always really nice so I'll just let you off the hook. Come back if you want to debaet it."

Actually Imran is right. I never said that anything that can't survive in the market should sink, only TV stations that can't survive in the market should sink. You however, above said: "If it cannot survive in todays market, as Shi said, it must sink." when I affect I never said I wanted everything they can't survive in the market to sink. The fact that you are inventing arguments on our side to answer rather then answering our real arguments indicate you have once again lost.

I'm sorry, I mean that shi said "IT SHOULD SINK". I never meant to imply that Shi said that everything that can't survive in the market should sink.

Though I do think you knew that

[GePap]

Like the osprey program, the F-22, or more titan missiles. But once we get them, we can all wathc the wonderful PBS show about them!

[Nubclear]

GePap is doing much better than I am

[Nubclear]

We learn something new everyday...

I just learned that many PBS programs are recorded and then PLAYED IN SCHOOLS because of the educational content in its programming

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why should you pay for the government to find out what the sound of a rocket does to cows? There are SOOOO Many more things we could cut that are absolutely useless.

Who says I don't want to cut these things either. It isn't mutually exclusive .

Though how is the F-22 useless? I would think keeping our lead in air superiority is very useful to national defense.

[Edan]

I'm pretty sure PBS still gets money, though not as much as it used to. OTOH, much of the program PBS use to soley offer now has more outlets, though certainly not all

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui So instead you pour money into a channel that no one watches? What insanity!

Just call me no one then. Of course, I pledge to one of my local PBS stations regularly anyway. BOth for the programming I watrch, and for others to benefit from the programs they want to watch.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Why should you pay for the government to find out what the sound of a rocket does to cows? There are SOOOO Many more things we could cut that are absolutely useless.

Who says I don't want to cut these things either. It isn't mutually exclusive .

I'm just saying that we shouldn't be debating about PBS. We should be about cows and rockets

[Imran Siddiqui]

I just learned that many PBS programs are recorded and then PLAYED IN SCHOOLS because of the educational content in its programming

Let's see, the public school has a choice between something made by the government (it's ultimate boss) or something made by someone else, which may be better, but it isn't backed by the boss. Hmmm...

[GePap]

Becuase we realy don;t need any new planes to mainitan air superiority. it is all the other systems that complement our airplanes (like AWACS, satellites, so forth and so on) that give us air superiority. An F-15 airframe is little better, if at all, form that of a SU-27. But the better electronics, pilot training, and long range systems is what matters.

Oh, and if you see more than one PBS show a year then you probably have gotten more out of PBS than you ever out in as tax revenue, so attacks against PBS are not based on money, but ideology (like Floyd's libertarian assault)

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I just learned that many PBS programs are recorded and then PLAYED IN SCHOOLS because of the educational content in its programming

Let's see, the public school has a choice between something made by the government (it's ultimate boss) or something made by someone else, which may be better, but it isn't backed by the boss. Hmmm...

Apparently, because schools seemingly are trying to furfill their purpose (to teach), they chose something thats better but isn't backed by the government

[Shi Huangdi]

I've never had a PBS prgoram played into me in school, except for Ken Burns' program on the Civil War on the 9th grade; though BUrns' program was by no means nessecary to learning about the Civil War. Stuff from the History Channel was far far more commonly shown.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I've never had a PBS prgoram played into me in school, except for Ken Burns' program on the Civil War on the 9th grade; though BUrns' program was by no means nessecary to learning about the Civil War. Stuff from the History Channel was far far more commonly shown.

Could just be a Utahn thing

[GePap]

I don;t think TV is a worthwhile thing to use time in school for.

The problem with the history Channel is that thier writing is severely dumbed down, and I have noticed many writing errors.

The only way to get culturally enriching and genuinely educational TV without cable or satellite service is PBS, and even with these other networks, PBS is the best of them, with the best overall porgraming.

The issue for PBS is that since it does have to aim for a universal audience, it can;t just become totally specialized like a cable channel. It covers a very wide range of topics, and not just one (like History, Animal Planet, so forth). plus it is also able to stay away form things like trading spaces, and other themse programing.And as i said, if in the last year you saw just one show on PBS, you already got your moneys worth from it.