Creationists take heed

[Lincoln]

Well I am happy to learn that the second law of thermodynamics does not exist anymore. I learn something new here everyday. It is amazing that atheists will go to such extremes to deny deterioriation. I guess we are all just getting younger and younger!

[Sava]

Silly Lincoln... don't blame atheists for pointing out the truth... blame your God for lying to you.

[Lincoln]

Thanks for confirming that the second law does not exist anymore. I really am starting to be convinced now... Let me know what happens the next time you turn the heat off from under a frying pan. I guess evolution is doing something here that I don't understand...

[Sava]

Actually, my God crack was unfair. It wasn't God who lied to you. It was the men who wrote the bible and the generations of Christians before you. God could very well be waiting for us in death, shaking his/her head because of how he/she has been misrepresented.

[Lincoln]

Well I agree that he has been misrepresented.

[Sava]

I don't have a problem with people believing in a diety or higher power. I'm a soft-atheist/agnostic. I can't say whether or not there isn't a God. But I do have a problem with the whole ear-plugging "LA LA LA" attitude of some religious people. The Orthodox church, for instance, has accepted what science has shown, but yet the faith of it's partioners has not wavered. There's nothing wrong with admitting that maybe the authors of the Bible weren't 100% accurate in their description of things. The Bible's accuracy does not affect the status of what lies beyond death. One can believe in God and still accept the truth of the world in which he/she created.

[Lincoln]

Well I hope that you don't throw the baby out with the dirty bath water. Jesus didn't care much for hypocrites either. I certainly do not know all about God. I think you are right and there will be many surprises in the end.

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by BustaMike


Not quite accurate as it pertains to this topic. As I said before, when systems start to get to very small levels, they fail to be smooth and start to get quantifiable...

I always wondered why a straight line could be thought of as part of a circle of infinite radius. It seemed to me the 2 definitions contradicted each other. Needless to see, I have a lot of arguments with maths teachers. They don't improve my knowledge of numbers, but they do help my debating skills.

Next!

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Sava
But I do have a problem with the whole ear-plugging "LA LA LA" attitude of some religious people.

Why do you have a problem with it? It is simply how they want to express themselves and their beliefs. Most Christians draw a great deal of strength and well-being from going to church to worship. Do you also have a problem with people who go to a nightclub to release their tensions?

You people are so unbelievably narrow minded!

[Sava]

yay we agree on something!

[Cruddy]

I'm amazed that so many people's ideas of an all powerful, omniscient God are so small minded. Such a being is surely beyond the limits of human definition anyway, so all these petty arguments of Creationists are about selling the idea, rather than the content.

Next!

[Sava]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh


Why do you have a problem with it? It is simply how they want to express themselves and their beliefs. Most Christians draw a great deal of strength and well-being from going to church to worship. Do you also have a problem with people who go to a nightclub to release their tensions?

You people are so unbelievably narrow minded!

Sorry, but when people's beliefs fly in the face of truth, well it bothers me. It's no different than the alcoholic who claims he can drive better while drunk. Perhaps you should re-read my posts. You can still go to church, believe in God, and be a good person WHILE admitting that maybe the world is older than 6,000 years and that we all aren't descended from two naked white people. Ever thought the Adam and Eve was a MYTH?

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Sava
Sorry, but when people's beliefs fly in the face of truth, well it bothers me.

Well, if it bothers you, then it is your problem - not theirs. Their beliefs only 'fly in the face' of your truth, just as your beliefs may 'fly in the face' of theirs.

It's no different than the alcoholic who claims he can drive better while drunk.

It is waaay different. Someone who believes he can drive better while drunk is putting other people at risk (if he acts on his beliefs). Creationists are not.

Perhaps you should re-read my posts. You can still go to church, believe in God, and be a good person WHILE admitting that maybe the world is older than 6,000 years and that we all aren't descended from two naked white people. Ever thought the Adam and Eve was a MYTH?

Of course you can - I do! But people should be allowed to believe in what they want without being held to ridicule by people like you.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


No it isn't. Observation of fact. A complete literal adherence to the Bible inherently involves being a moral bigot, since the Bible commands one to be as such.

What a bigoted statement! No it doesn't, because the Bible is so complex that there is no one literal translation. Most people who use the Bible to support their bigoted views make the grave error of ripping a few phrases out of their context.

The best known tele-evangelists don't necessarily have the support of the majority of evangelists. Yesterday a major evangelical council issued a sharp condemnation of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and even Franklin Graham for their anti-Islamic statements.

[Rogan Josh]

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