Rugby - Advantage!

[Havak]

So? What's a couple of hours in a train…

A couple of hours not drinking for starters!

Cohen, from my observation, unlike Howlett, needs to wind up. Tubbies are like that, I'm told.

You might benefit from watching his second half try last November again then. You see that forlorn lunging AB shirt in the background – guess who it belongs to? He can’t just take him on, he can skin him. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t need the ‘fat lads start’ though before you pick me up on it.

Joe Rokocoko

What a name! Glad I’m not commentating. Hmm – the English press are going to make that ‘Rocky Cocky’ – you can see it coming.

Oddly enough, everything that applies to the rest of the world doesn't apply to the parallel universe that is Leicester.

Oh well. I have blind faith that we will sweep all before us once again.

They lost a hell of a lot when the Fitzpatrick-Zinzan-Bunce generation moved on. As happens.

And you don’t need to remind me of the similarities we could face to that after the World Cup.

Which is your cue to remind me that he's a merchant banker.

Or was. He seems to be happily married now.

Do you think Tamerlin picks up on the cockney rhyming slang in that reference?

Not really

Welcome Caligastia – getting round the web monitoring?

The point I was making was that the Maori side is stronger on attack out wide, therefore the weather affected their game plan more than it did the English

How do you know the English plan wasn’t to spin it in dry weather? You are guilty of a stereotype assumption. Believe me the players in that side were fully capable of so doing.

Nice line about the clouds though.

Come on, where's that English humor we all know and love?

It’s still here – just taking a small break.

Are you saying that at the instant of this move the wide line consisted of tight five players? One can see the funny side then.

If it was the actual back line he was both rude and daft because that consisted of Balshaw, Luger, Noon and Simpson-Daniel – and they all look like they need a slap up meal to me! Indeed their opposing numbers looked far more bloaty.

As I said - well done England. A totally legitimate win.

I hope I can be as giving should the worst happen.
The warm up words are starting to move -

check here

I could link you to English players saying similarly repsectful things - but then they are English so you know they are anyway.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Havak
Welcome Caligastia – getting round the web monitoring?

Nah, just going ahead and posting anyway. Others in my dept are going on non work related sites, and there's bugger all to do at the moment anyway.

How do you know the English plan wasn’t to spin it in dry weather? You are guilty of a stereotype assumption. Believe me the players in that side were fully capable of so doing.

That may well have been the English plan, but I reckon the Maori team were stronger in that area - therefore the weather hampered a strength of theirs more than the English. The win was totally legit though.

Nice line about the clouds though.

It’s still here – just taking a small break.

Are you saying that at the instant of this move the wide line consisted of tight five players? One can see the funny side then.

Can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure none of the England speedsters were out wide at the time.

If it was the actual back line he was both rude and daft because that consisted of Balshaw, Luger, Noon and Simpson-Daniel – and they all look like they need a slap up meal to me! Indeed their opposing numbers looked far more bloaty.

That's probably due to the traditional Maori training diet - fish and chips.

I hope I can be as giving should the worst happen.

It's only the maoris, I probably won't be so generous if the ABs lose.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Havak
The warm up words are starting to move -

check here

I could link you to English players saying similarly repsectful things - but then they are English so you know they are anyway.

I say, rather, old fruit.

[Havak]

Quite right old boy.

Others in my dept are going on non work related sites, and there's bugger all to do at the moment anyway.

Quite right too – down with censorship in all it’s forms.

but I reckon the Maori team were stronger in that area

I just wonder why that’s all? This was the worlds number one ranked side playing a team that does not play test rugby – who would we expect the non test side to be better at anything?

Can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure none of the England speedsters were out wide at the time.

You would have noticed if he had cracked the line about the matchsticks.

That's probably due to the traditional Maori training diet - fish and chips.

The right diet – for a tight five a decade ago.

I used to play with a guy (a lock as it happens) who used to eat fish and chips superstitiously a few hours before each game. We played a Sunday game once and he was inconsolable (an old law preventing fish and chip shops opening on Sundays is still in effect here). Ah good memories!

It's only the maoris, I probably won't be so generous if the ABs lose.

Losing I hope I will cope with. If we get stuffed – well then I’ll do a Tamerlin and return only when my blood pressure returns to normal.

[Havak]

No sooner do I tell you how polite and respectful we are than Clive comes very close to disproving it

Although it is your media he is picking on which is fine by me.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Havak
I just wonder why that’s all? This was the worlds number one ranked side playing a team that does not play test rugby – who would we expect the non test side to be better at anything?

Not necessarily stronger than England, just stronger in that aspect of their game than in others.

You would have noticed if he had cracked the line about the matchsticks.

The right diet – for a tight five a decade ago.

I used to play with a guy (a lock as it happens) who used to eat fish and chips superstitiously a few hours before each game. We played a Sunday game once and he was inconsolable (an old law preventing fish and chip shops opening on Sundays is still in effect here). Ah good memories!

Well I've had to do without good fish and chips for a while since moving here. Yeah, there are a few places that serve ok stuff, but it just doesn't taste the same...I'll probably get my fix in a month or so as the missus and I are plannign a trip to London. Will you be around?

Losing I hope I will cope with. If we get stuffed – well then I’ll do a Tamerlin and return only when my blood pressure returns to normal.

Meanwhile, if we get stuffed I'll just make weak excuses and bring up past victories.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Havak
No sooner do I tell you how polite and respectful we are than Clive comes very close to disproving it

Although it is your media he is picking on which is fine by me.

Anyone who thinks England will be smashed has lost any grip they may or may not have had on reality.

[Caligastia]

Just looked at the schedule on Fox - I have to wait till Tuesday night to see the big game!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak


A couple of hours not drinking for starters!

They have bars on French trains. Very civilised.

He can’t just take him on, he can skin him. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t need the ‘fat lads start’ though before you pick me up on it.

Mmmm. Pre-emptive qualification of an outright whopper. Party pooper.

What a name! Glad I’m not commentating. Hmm – the English press are going to make that ‘Rocky Cocky’ – you can see it coming.

Think yourself lucky the IRB knocked back the ABs' bid to have his Fijian flying mate Caucau deemed eligible to play for the ABs. He's just as quick and more skilled. He'll turn up for Fiji in the WRC. Keep an eye out for him if you happen to see a Fiji match.

And you don’t need to remind me of the similarities we could face to that after the World Cup.

Good point. Age will knock you around quite a bit. Exactly what happened to the ABs for the most part.

Do you think Tamerlin picks up on the cockney rhyming slang in that reference?

I doubt it. I expect that if we talked about tea leaves he'd be thinking Darjeeling.

The warm up words are starting to move -

check here

I could link you to English players saying similarly repsectful things - but then they are English so you know they are anyway.

Ironically, there was an article in this morning's press about the WRC coaches being asked their choices to win the WRC (excluding their own teams). Eddie picked England. Only Samoa's coach tipped the Wallabies. There was no other detail of who picked whom, but the ABs topped the poll closely followed by England.

OT Red Mist* Outbreak. Why didn't the bastard who invented Optical Mouses (or is that Mice?) also invent some sort of alarm that sounded before the batteries went dead? I'm sick and tired of the batteries dying unannounced and freezing the damn cursor in the middle of the screen!

* Copyright, J****

[Alexander's Horse]

You showing up for civ tonight finbar? Hydey and I are - we miss you.

I promise not to fight with deity

[Caligastia]

I was just reading through one of my childhood favorites (which I'm sure you will all recognise), and I thought I would share this bit:

[finbar]

I'm out for dinner tonight and 6 people are coming for dinner tomorrow night and getting in the way of my watching England -v- All Blacks followed by Wallabies -v- Wales. Bastards.

My mate Pinky - who obviously makes too much money out of Machinegun Fellatio - bought me Civ 3, the SP version. I've been playing around with it. Vastly superior to Civ 2 in concept, IMHO.

[Caligastia]

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by finbar
I'm out for dinner tonight and 6 people are coming for dinner tomorrow night and getting in the way of my watching England -v- All Blacks followed by Wallabies -v- Wales. Bastards.

Jeeez that was poor planning

Hydey, dr_eamer, maybe trev, and I will probably get something going on the civ front.

My mate Pinky - who obviously makes too much money out of Machinegun Fellatio - bought me Civ 3, the SP version. I've been playing around with it. Vastly superior to Civ 2 in concept, IMHO.

Concept is fine, execution left something to be desired - but I never bothered to patch my version. I'm going to give it another burl when the expansion pack comes down in price.

[Havak]

Anyone who thinks England will be smashed has lost any grip they may or may not have had on reality.

Well anything is possible of course. But to be honest I expect it to be a fairly small margin whatever way it goes.

Always pleased to see a bit of Asterix. French humour at it’s finest.

Just looked at the schedule on Fox - I have to wait till Tuesday night to see the big game!

Not good! Why on earth on they not showing it?

They have bars on French trains. Very civilised.

I’ve only been on the metro and city lines – no bars on them. Plus do red wine and Kronenbourg constitute a bar – it’s a tough call.

Pre-emptive qualification of an outright whopper

You really need to watch the game again – no whopper here. It’s a fallacy that the England back line is totally bereft of speed. It doesn’t possess it in every position like the team Mitchell has named seems to I will admit.
Only four survivors from the ‘development squad’ from November I see. And believe it or not this is the first time both Johnson and Dallaglio have faced the ABs in New Zealand. What a tasty game in prospect – I expect Spencer will push it wide from the off whereas I’m sure we’ll be using the pack to draw in defenders before giving our own back line a chance. A real clash of styles coming up.

Keep an eye out for him if you happen to see a Fiji match.

I will do – though I can’t find any fixtures for them before the World Cup?

As for the IRB ruling I applaud it hugely. Partly because I feel it is high time New Zealand stood on their own two feet for rugby resources, and partly because for the game to grow the Fijians. Tongans and Samoans that excel at the game must be allowed to play for their own national sides rather than being made honourary Kiwis. The ABs have a lengthy history of crippling the Polynesian sides in this way?

Good point. Age will knock you around quite a bit.

We are very aware of it. I’d like to see some new blood come in for the six nations, and yes including younger locks.

I doubt it. I expect that if we talked about tea leaves he'd be thinking Darjeeling.

Whereas you would be thinking of all the points you make that I recycle to you a month later?

There was no other detail of who picked whom, but the ABs topped the poll closely followed by England

Fascinating things aren’t they? How much is genuine and how much part of the ‘game’. I think I’m still going to go Wallabies-NZ-England-France in that order regardless of the next couple of games. The venue remains crucial to me.
I’m ruling the Boks out totally unless they make a huge turnaround in the second game with Scotland.

I'm sick and tired of the batteries dying unannounced and freezing the damn cursor in the middle of the screen!

Probably a combination of cost and the fact that it would never occur to a design engineer people might want that. I use optical mice (mouses?) with cables still (saves money on batteries).

And J**** is making a fortune from your use of his IP this week.

Given the time difference you may well be dinner party bound already so I’ll catch you after the weekends games.

But are you saying, and I find this hard to believe, that you prefer Civ 3? Or were simply admiring the concepts? Horse was right the execution was lacking. I think you will find the structure it imposes on your play very restricting given time. The patches did change it although I didn’t give it much of a go with the final patch for the initial release – I was far too brassed off with it by then. And the expansion packs are an expensive gamble for a game that managed to alienate one initially.

Try RoN – an RTS sure but it was designed by a team that understood a game should be accessible to newbies, allow variety of strategy and above all be FUN. Is it available for Mac?

On topic in the OT – whatever next.