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  • #46
    7.

    At least, closer to 7 than 8 I guess.

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    • #47
      I did a search on the word "Anarchism" in dictionary.com... here is what it came up with:

      The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable and should be abolished.
      Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists.
      Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: “He was inclined to anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand Russell).
      Is this not accurate, Ramo?
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #48
        I voted banana... Monkey!!!

        I am conservative when it comes to economics. I am against political involvement to an extent. I feel that the only place the government should be involved, economically, is to protect the consumers.

        I also feel that the government should stay out of the moral affairs of ppl, and should only come into play to protect the rights of those who do not have similar moral values.

        I'm pro-choice, anti-AA, anti-gun control, pro-death penalty, tentative on civil liberties, for the tax cut, for decreasing government spending, for dereg.

        I take a stance, but as far as classifing myself
        Monkey!!!

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        • #49
          No, Fez, using an online dictionary generally isn't the best way to learn about political philosophy.
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #50
            So you can't be religious and to the left? Or non-religious and to the right?
            people have different ideas of what christianity stands for as well...
            so yes you can....
            there are thousands of religions out there...

            Fascists believe in a strong and powerful central authority with complete control of the country. Anarchy believes in no central authority (or a very weak one).
            No, fascists don't... well, not the ideology fascism, although that's what's happened in fascist-ruled countries....

            No they don't mean the same thing. You can believe that that the government should have a very socially liberal policy (pro-choice, pro-civil liberties, pro-affirmative action, etc), while also believing that the government should keep taxes low, keeping the marketplace relatively free and open and not spend money on programs like social security and welfare, etc.
            you sort of misunderstood me there....I don't say that all ideologies fit in perfectly in the left-right scale. some fit in more, some less...
            uhm..wait...

            You can believe that that the government should have a very socially liberal policy (pro-choice, pro-civil liberties, pro-affirmative action, etc), while also believing that the government should keep taxes low, keeping the marketplace relatively free and open and not spend money on programs like social security and welfare, etc.
            then you're to the right....

            Simmilarly, you could be very much to the right on policies (pro-life, anti-aff action, anti gun control, etc) and still want the government to tax and spend on things like religious charities, military, etc.
            then you're to the left
            And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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            • #51
              Anarchism doesn't necessarily mean the lack of government, although there are some anarchists that do believe that. Rather, it's the idea that authority should be minimized, public and private. Basically, it's libertarian socialism.
              the ideology of anarchy, as all other ideologies, changes from time to time...what fez found in the dictionary is what it meant from the beginning, and it's alsowhat the name itself means



              some political issues just can't be put on the right left scale...they have nothing to do with...as for the military issue...
              but you can't build an entire ideology on military opninions (except for Glory of War ) so you'll still be in a left-right scale....
              And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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              • #52
                No, I just explained what anarchists stood for in "the beginning," and what they have always stood for. What Fez found in the dictionary was primarily a result of gov't slander and repression.

                As for what the name itself means, anarchism literally means without authority. Meaning without state authority as well as without private authority.
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • #53
                  No, fascists don't... well, not the ideology fascism, although that's what's happened in fascist-ruled countries....
                  I don't think you know what fascism is, either.
                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

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                  • #54
                    No, I just explained what anarchists stood for in "the beginning," and what they have always stood for. What Fez found in the dictionary was primarily a result of gov't slander and repression.
                    I thought anarchy meant "lack of government"or "nobody rules"(I'm not so good in latin)

                    whatever

                    Rather, it's the idea that authority should be minimized, public and private.
                    which'll mean it's to the right?
                    And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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                    • #55
                      I'm not so good in latin
                      The word is Greek, not Latin.

                      which'll mean it's to the right?
                      No, it's to the left. It's a variant of socialism. No self-respecting anarchist would say that he's a rightist.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #56
                        I don't think you know what fascism is, either.
                        well, not all fascists agree on what fascism really is, just as all anarchists don't agree.....

                        I know people who claim that they're fascists without believing in a "complete control authority"...so...
                        And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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                        • #57
                          The word is Greek, not Latin.
                          I see that now when you say it...I'm not so good in greek either

                          No, it's to the left. It's a variant of socialism. No self-respecting anarchist would say that he's a rightist.
                          No, since they don't think that the gov should handle the "socialhelp" they're not socialists... People to the right think that all people should have a nice life too, you know

                          Many many self-respecting anarchists say they're rightists...
                          And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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                          • #58
                            well, not all fascists agree on what fascism really is, just as all anarchists don't agree.....
                            I know people who claim that they're fascists without believing in a "complete control authority"...so..
                            I don't know what "complete control authority" exactly is, but the idea behind fascism is that the state should "mediate" between all elements of society for the benefit of the nation. And if the some element of society gets out of line - if workers strike, or people protest the gov't, etc., etc., the state takes care of them. That's what the founders of fascism - people like Barres and Mussolini advocated.

                            No, since they don't think that the gov should handle the "socialhelp" they're not socialists...
                            Socialism isn't the same thing as a welfare state. Socialism is the worker control of the means of production. Social democrats are capitalists.

                            Many many self-respecting anarchists say they're rightists...
                            I thought you said you didn't associate with anarchists. How would you know what they believe?
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #59
                              5 - I'm a complete centrist. I have some left views, some right views, and many centre ones.
                              Smile
                              For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                              But he would think of something

                              "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                              • #60
                                I don't know what "complete control authority" exactly is, but the idea behind fascism is that the state should "mediate" between all elements of society for the benefit of the nation. And if the some element of society gets out of line - if workers strike, or people protest the gov't, etc., etc., the state takes care of them. That's what the founders of fascism - people like Barres and Mussolini advocated.
                                the thing is...they don't care who does it....as long as it gets done...that's the difference...


                                Socialism isn't the same thing as a welfare state. Socialism is the worker control of the means of production. Social democrats are capitalists.
                                Social democrats are capitalists???WTF? No they are NOT...I should know...I live in a country where over 40 % are Social Democrats!!!!!

                                I thought you said you didn't associate with anarchists. How would you know what they believe?
                                I still have friends who are anarchists, I don't care what their political opinions are...
                                And ever after, sun shone upon the land of Sunshinia...

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