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Wow. Taking the piss out of oneself is so much easier than I first imagined...
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"Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman -
If this makes sense to you which one are you?Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
A socialist is someone who has read Marx. A capitalist is someone who understood Marx.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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You have confused Socialism with Communism.
Read Stefu's post again. Socialism has 3 billion different definitions depending on who you ask (ok, that might be a small exaggeration... but only small
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Iain: I wouldn't pin you as someone who'd quote Reagan.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Thats better then the crime resulting from poverty.Originally posted by Clear Skies
And hey, since all socialists get fat off the welfare state, it's one hell of a big butt!
Social Darwinists.
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You cant get fat from welfare state. You just dont have to die on the streets or kill someone else to live.Comment
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Sssssh Paiktis, don't break their misconceptions
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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didnt take more than a line
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Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
A socialist is someone who has read Marx. A capitalist is someone who understood Marx.
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Then take a look at The Netherlands, it's standard of living is comparable and they've adopted many socialist principles.Originally posted by Dissident
Scandinavia does not have the same standard of living as the U.S.
There's absolutely no reason why Socialism and Capitalism can't coexist in the same society. Though a better term would be Social Democracy. Some things can be done better by the market, others are by the government. It's just a question of experimenting to find the right balance.
And as for the US having a better standard of living than Scandinavia, that all depends on what side of the economic fence you're on. The poor in America can be very poor indeed. The gap between the two extremes is wide, more so than many European countries, as well as Canada. We're heading for a Social Democratic society as well.Comment
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Canada. Our tax rates aren't that much higher than the US overall, and in some sectors are lower. We've had to keep them fairly low in order to stay competitive with the US. Granted we don't have a huge military force, but as someone mentioned, it's a matter of priorities. We've decided that it doesn't make a lot of sense spending billions on something that only kills people and destroys infrastructure, we'd rather devote those resources to our people.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Show me one with low taxes.Comment
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Actually, there is. Ceteris parabus, people prefer socialism to capitalism, and it tends to beat capitalism at its own game. That's why capitalists have had to rig the game. When push comes to shove, they will toss the game board or take all the pieces and go home or simply shoot the other players.Originally posted by Willem
There's absolutely no reason why Socialism and Capitalism can't coexist in the same society.Last edited by chequita guevara; May 5, 2003, 00:12.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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In any argument there are the two extremes, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Maoism/Stalinism/Marxism are one extreme, the laissez faire approach of the US is the other. Somewhere in between we'll find the ideal societal model. We just need to have the courage to experiment until we find the right balance.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, there is. Ceteris parabus,p people prefer socialism to capitalism, and it tends to beat capitalism at its own game. That's why capitalists have had to rig the game. When push comes to shove, they will toss the game board or take all the pieces and go home or simply shoot the other players.Comment
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No!!! Scandinavian standard of living is higher!!!Originally posted by Dissident
Scandinavia does not have the same standard of living as the U.S.
check this link:
USA is 30 in the rank.-El patriotismo no es más que egoísmo en masa.
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