Bush Address To United Nations

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Agathon


Fez. You are the sort of guy who supports Augusto Pinochet. And the sort of unthinking barbaric fascist that your country was supposed to have rid itself of. I guess they didn't do a good enough job.

And you support Fidel Castro.. so? You need help.. you are delusional.

Being on your ignore list is a badge of honour.

Get a clue.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Felch X
Hahahaha, we don't coddle dictators. We don't associate ourselves with Castro, the despot who recently cracked down on dissenters who wanted to have elections and freedom of speech.

It's more like recently cracked down on US sponsored dissenters who want to make Cuba into an American mudpatch. Given the fact that the US has waged a dirty war against Cuba for 40 years I'd suggest that Fidel is in the right here. The Cuban people are free - free of US influence. And that's a freedom worth having.

And gee wouldn't free elections and free speech US style be great. I mean, everyone wants their elections bought by corporations and FOX news is so wonderful.

And the United States is in no moral position to criticize the actions of any Latin American Government, given their record in the region. I'd take Fidel over Bush any day.

Oaf.

[SlowwHand]

I wrote email to the organization that recruited th"Human Shields".

I asked them how stupid did their organization feel, now that "joiners" were returning, and telling of how their outlook was changed so dramatically.

Their response?
"We have no comment at this time".

Yeah. Screw you.

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Actually, France has called for the end of sanctions.

In 1998.

In 2003, they called for a "modifacation", subject to consequent reports, committees, ect.

In other words, they aern't taking their hand out of Iraq's pocket just yet.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Fez

And you support Fidel Castro.. so? You need help.. you are delusional.

And you can add Hugo Chavez while you're at it.

Another badge of honour.

Get a clue.

Got more clues than you sonny jim, at least as far as I can tell from the quality of your posts, which display the wit of Pat Buchanan, the literacy of GWB and the ethics of Mussolini.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Agathon
The Cuban people are free - free of US influence. And that's a freedom worth having.

As much as I hate the American imperialism, I think this sentence is utterly and absolutely stupid. The Cuban people are mostly free of US influence, sure, but are bound with Castro's authoritarian regime. Free ? My ass

[Giancarlo]

Cuba right now is one of the most imprisioned countries in the world... so free my ass. Agathon, you really have been brainwashed.

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Agathon
It's more like recently cracked down on US sponsored dissenters who want to make Cuba into an American mudpatch. Given the fact that the US has waged a dirty war against Cuba for 40 years I'd suggest that Fidel is in the right here. The Cuban people are free - free of US influence. And that's a freedom worth having.

And gee wouldn't free elections and free speech US style be great. I mean, everyone wants their elections bought by corporations and FOX news is so wonderful.

And the United States is in no moral position to criticize the actions of any Latin American Government, given their record in the region. I'd take Fidel over Bush any day.

Oaf.

People like you allow murderers to proliferate throughout the world.

YOU would pick Castro....HA HA HA HA

Cuba’s traditional supporters among the strongest critics of island’s crackdown
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Carlos Fuentes called Cuba a “suffocating dictatorship.” Jose Saramago said Fidel Castro “cheated his dreams.”

Shocked at Cuba’s recent crackdown on dissent, many leftist intellectuals and authors find themselves criticizing a government they spent years applauding.

The backlash appears to have caught Cuba off guard and forced officials to defend themselves against not only their foes — but also their longtime friends.

For years, the communist government appeared to be relaxing its tough stance toward critics. Encouraged, even Republican U.S. lawmakers were calling to lift more than four decades of U.S. imposed sanctions.

But that changed earlier this month, when Cuba ordered a firing squad to execute three men accused of terrorism in the unsuccessful hijacking of a ferry full of passengers. The men were trying to get to the United States.

Days before, Cuba sentenced 75 dissidents, many of them independent journalists or directors of independent libraries, to prison terms of up to 28 years. Cuba accused them of working with U.S. diplomats to undermine Castro’s government — a charge the dissidents and the State Department have denied.
The crackdown was condemned around the globe.

Sweden warned the actions could harm Cuba’s prospects for a better relationship with the European Union, while Canada and Italy sent letters of protest to Castro.

But some of the strongest criticism came from Cuba’s supporters, who have stuck by the government’s 44-year rule despite complaints about its human rights record.

“Must they learn the bad habits of the enemy they are fighting?” wrote Uruguayan author Eduardo Galeano, who once praised Castro as a “symbol of national dignity.”

“The death penalty is never justified, no matter where it is applied.”

Fuentes, a Mexican novelist and longtime Cuba supporter, was even more disillusioned. He lumped Bush and Castro together and declared himself against both. Castro, he said, needs “his American enemy to justify his own failings.”

“As a Mexican, I wish for my country neither the dictates of Washington on foreign policy, nor the Cuban example of a suffocating dictatorship,” he wrote in a letter published in Mexico City’s Reforma newspaper.

He wasn’t alone. Saramago, a Portuguese writer who won the 1998 Nobel Prize for literature and considered himself a close friend of Castro, said Cuba “has lost my confidence, damaged my hopes, cheated my dreams.”

Colombian Nobel laureate Gabriel Garcia Marquez, who lives part-time in Cuba, has been silent on the issue. But his magazine, Cambio, published an article saying “few other repressive waves have left a government so isolated and rejected.”

The government responded by publishing rebukes in the Communist Party daily Granma.

In one letter published Saturday, a group of well-known Cuban intellectuals urged their colleagues to stop criticizing the island.
Entitled “Message from Havana to our friends in faraway places,” the letter said the recent statements by leftist intellectuals “are being used in the great campaign trying to isolate us and prepare the stage for military aggression by the United States against Cuba.”

Cuba made a similar assertion about several of its Latin American allies earlier this month, calling them U.S. “lackeys” after the nations backed an amendment calling for a U.N. rights monitor to visit the island.

Peru protested the comments by the Cuba’s U.N. delegate, and Nicaragua recalled its envoy from Cuba for consultations.
Still, Cuba has claimed some political victories recently.

The 53-member U.N. Human Rights Commission rejected a tougher amendment criticizing Cuba’s dissident crackdown.

Maryland also is sticking with plans to send the Pride of Baltimore II clipper ship to the island to promote the state’s seafood, poultry, pet food, cake mix, juices and spices. The ship is scheduled to arrive at the island on May 24.

But the Bush administration, unhappy about the Cuban action, is contemplating ways to make Castro’s government pay a price. It also has undercut embargo foes on Capitol Hill.

Fuentes warned it will be hard for Castro to bounce back.

The Cuban president, he said, is preparing “the way for his own exit from the world stage in a hail of flames.”

Notice, it's his SUPPORTERS who questioned him, and YOU just defended him!

[Spiffor]

Good link Tass.
Interesting to see that the US really doesn't want UN inspectors in Iraq. Does the US have something to hide ?

[SlowwHand]

Cuba. I know. I read Cuba mentioned by the ACS Communist-wannabes, and it makes me want to wretch.


A SURE sign of ignorance compounded.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Chris 62
In 2003, they called for a "modifacation", subject to consequent reports, committees, ect.

Read the link and weep, Chris.

They called for a SUSPENSION of the sanctions, and then once UN inspectors can verify it is free of WoMD, they call for an END to it

Look before you leap...........Think before you speak

[Chris 62]

Tass, I realize that English is your second langague, but modifacation and suspention are the SAME thing, NEITHER mean ending it.

Nice try though.

You can remove your foot from your mouth at any time.

[Q Classic]

dealing with iraq was easy enough. dealing with the other countries that harbor terrorism won't be.

are we, as americans, really prepared for that? i don't think so.

dealing with terrorism seems simple enough; bring the perpetrators to justice sounds noble enough. but can we hold an entire country to blame for creating terorrists? again, i don't think so.

in this modern world, things are a lot more grey than the black and white that the neocons all believe.

[cinch]

modifacation and suspention are the SAME thing

No, they aren't.

[Chris 62]

In this instince, they are.

Pay attention.