Multiplayer Strategy Guide

[blackice]

I would agree good post

[Nimrod]

Here is a list of the governments along with a score for their production, growth, gold, science, and military rating.

Values:
Awful -2
Bad -1
Average 0
Good +1
Excellent +2

Governmnet:
Anarchy -10
Tyranny -5
Monarchy -2
Republic -1
Thoecracy 0
Communism 0
Democracy 0
Ecotopia 3
Facism 3
Virtual Democracy 3
Corporate Republic 4
Technocracy 4

[Mathemagician]

base work hours, food rations and wages are also different. did you incorporate that ?
thats why e.g. democracy and technocracy are usually difficult to maintain efficiently.

[blackice]

Ok here is how the math works out in that game dancemasseuse:

P.T. 32224
W.D. -8056
G.B 12084
Crime -2242
Supp. -6294
For Building 15632

From this observation the Government bonus is already included in the P.T. ( Per Turn ) totals.

So 32224 - 8056 (workday)= 24168 - 2242 (crime)=21926 - 6294 (support)= 15632

That works out as 15632 is what was left for building.

Let's look at an 8 hour workday vs. the 6 above:

P.T. 32254
W.D. 0
G.B. 16127
Crime -4576
Supp -6294
For Building 21384

If you do the math exactly as shown above you will see 21384 is what is left. The G.B. difference accounts for most of the crime difference with the exception of about 533 which could be individual cities having a .2 unhappiness on the average.

31 cities @ .2 unhappiness= 64.508 if I take it as 32254 divided by 64.508 I come up with 500 so yes unhappiness difference in each city accounts for the remaining crime difference.

Solved.

[Mathemagician]

ugh
just checking

[Mathemagician]

i think this might be a bug, but i'm not sure how to prevent (ab)using it:

in a recent single player game i had lots of unhappiness by pollution.
i wasnt able to build gaia controller yet, so i built sensorium to reduce the unhappiness at least.
but what happened was that all my pollution disappeared, not just the pollution-based unhappiness.

[Nimrod]

Thats odd. Few questions for you Math,

How high was your pollution before sensorium?
Did it happen around the same time you completed it?
Were you building any pollution reducers?
Did you change government or adjust workday or workers?
Did anyone else build Gaia?
Any other relevant information?

[Mathemagician]

Originally posted by Nimrod
Thats odd. Few questions for you Math,

How high was your pollution before sensorium?

so high that in my capital happiness was reduced by pollution (under corporate republic) by 36 !!

Did it happen around the same time you completed it?

exactly the same time !

Were you building any pollution reducers?

yes, but not of relevant amount.

Did you change government or adjust workday or workers?

workdays were maximum before and after.

Did anyone else build Gaia?

no.

Any other relevant information?

i changed some text files, but none of the pollution factors. im sure. i only added another civilisation and went from german to english text files.

im not a fool.
i know what i have seen. :-)

exactly when i built sensorium the pollution, and not only the related unhappiness, was gone !

[Nimrod]

If you are not the fool, then I am the nimrod

Only other thing I can think of is a miss translation somewhere.

[Mathemagician]

does anyone know a modification that puts new population units, if there are no more free city squares, on something else than 'Entertainer', maybe 'Worker' ?

[Mathemagician]

automatically, i mean of course.
unless you want to check every other turn for every larger city.

[blackice]

I must say that is odd Math, I have built that wonder 20-30 times and I have yet to see that happen. hummm

I will say though I do beleive you can not connect in the forums is because of file mods. This too could be a result of that. I sure hope you do not play with these modified files in a PBEM game?

[Mathemagician]

as i said, all i modified is the new civilisation.
yes, i do play with them in PBEM.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
as i said, all i modified is the new civilisation.
yes, i do play with them in PBEM.

Yup..thats what he said..he D O E S <<<>>>P L A Y with them

ok...Fire next volley!!

(Actually, as long as all involved have access then it should not be a problem!)

Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Mathemagician]

also, i think that the settings in the text files actually influence the other players in the game too.
i noticed that when using the all-german version, i received english-speaking messages from my opponents.
also, when i heard that my opponents got partly german messages.
so i dont think that the settings work only for the player who has them.