Turn 76, 1000BC

[Hot Mustard]

We definitely seem to have support for attack - no need for a poll. I'll have Beckham take the first shot in a little bit here and report back.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Krill
Ok, if we kill Vox this turn this is what we get:

1. Size 3 city that will have autoexpanded borders.
2. Free worker
3. Free happiness and health allowing eots to grow to size 6 and still be productive
4. Ability to slave out settlers in an economical fashion, ie working cottaged fp to provide gold.
5. Able to research monarchy for extra happiness before construction (this is a biggie, we can grow eots to work every cottaged flood plain within sight tile)
6. Can use units to barb hunt
7. Can settle all of our cities alot earlier so we get way ahead of the curve.

We would also get a religion.

(Thanks for the PM, Krill. )

[Arrian]

Yes, that's a key element (have we forgotten one of the reasons we went to war in the first place?).

But enough with that stuff. The RNG will be angry with our hubris and punish us.

-Arrian

[Krill]

Well yeah, but we'd get the religion anyway, so I didn't bother posting it, as that list is more about what we get if we attack now in addition to what we would get if we waited.

[Hot Mustard]

Ok, I don't think this stuff makes any difference, but just in case, I did all the other orders first, having Beckham wait (W) until I was done - forted Axe and Cantona, did workers, city tile reallocation, research to 100%, and scout movement

Scout moved 4:


And then Beckham:


Beckham has perished, beaten away from the Voice by Donegeal.

Numbers:
- Donegeal at 2.6/3.0 health
- Odds on second Skirmisher are only 3.2%

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by notyoueither

 7  2.6 /  3.2 1.8 / 42.0 1.8  Fail
 9  2.6 /  3.2 2.2 / 10.7 0.5  Fail
12  2.6 /  3.2 1.4 / 82.3 0.0  Win 6
13  2.6 /  3.2 1.4 / 82.3 0.9  Fail
14  2.6 /  3.2 2.2 / 10.7 2.2  Fail
16  2.6 /  3.2 0.0 /           Win 8
21  2.6 /  3.2 1.4 / 82.3 0.0  Win 12
22  2.6 /  3.2 2.6 /  3.2 2.6  Fail
23  2.6 /  3.2 2.6 /  3.2 1.4  Fail
24  2.6 /  3.2 2.2 / 10.7 1.8  Fail
28  2.6 /  3.2 2.6 /  3.2 2.2  Fail
30  2.6 /  3.2 1.4 / 82.3 0.0  Win 15
31  2.6 /  3.2 1.8 / 42.0 0.4  Fail
37  2.6 /  3.2 2.6 /  3.2 1.8  Fail
41  2.6 /  3.2 1.4 / 82.3 0.0  Win 24
42  2.6 /  3.2 2.6 /  3.2 1.4  Fail
43  2.6 /  3.2 0.9 / 97.0 0.0  Win 25
49  2.6 /  3.2 2.2 / 10.7 1.8  Fail
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18 attacks where first skirm takes them to 2.6. Win 6, lose 12

This is precisely where we find ourselves, unfortunately. Win 6, lose 12 says to me we have a 33% chance of victory from this point. Let the debate commence!

[Krill]

Attack with Zidane and then see what the odds are. If the Archer is at greater than 1.4 health, then don't attack with Materazzi.

[Arrian]

Agreed. Hit with Zidane.

[MUD mod]Zidane's POWERFUL headbut DEVASTATES Donegeal. Donegeal is bleeding. Donegeal mocks Zidane's mother...[/MUD mode]

-Arrian

[Hot Mustard]

I can always count on you two for quick responses!

If it was 2.2, I would press ahead - but this is precisely the breaking point NYE talked about, so I'd like to see how the team feels about it.

[Arrian]

Once more into the breach!!! REMEMBER GROG!!! Rrrraaaarrrr!



-Arrian

[Krill]

What Arrian said

Really, this isn't a break point though. If Zidane hits 3 times then we have 80% odds with Materazzi. If Zidane hits twice we have 40% odds with Materazzi. That is all it comes down to.

[Krill]

blah, ignore this post.

[Krill]

I have most of the land recreated. I have th cities down, and out units where they should be buit I haven't managed to get the production values done yet. What I'm more likely to do is just reset it all when we research maths, so that the values for the production are right.

Commerce will have to be counted instead of beakers, which means estimates for techs will be off, but there is nothing I can do about this because we can never take into account when other civs will research the techs.

All Worker jobs can be sorted, and will be for the next version.

[Hot Mustard]

I don't know what to do with that file, Krill.

[Krill]

bugger, I got called away and forgot to change something.

few moments...and it'll be sorted.