Turnplayer Thread #3

[sunrise089]

That would make 2 maces, 3 elephants, 4 cats, 2 (+2 if needed) horse archers, 3 spears, 1 axe, and 3 archers at the Cape.

Ok, great.

As for Pink, a cat makes sense, and then probably either an Elephant or a Pike. You guys know I prefer the versatility of the Jumbo, but a Pike is slightly better at defending some crazy Templar 2-mover rush.

[T-hawk]

Sullla: My worker plan still works fine if you stop Helmholtz roading and have him move to the silks next turn (129). Mustapha then moves to Helmholtz's old tile next turn. The first tile gets roaded on T130 by Mustapha, the silks tile still gets roaded on T131 by Helmholtz, and we actually don't lose any time on connecting Bluebell or on chopping that silks forest.

I agree on military at Pink now. Any interest in building a Stable here and using Pink for mounted units? I think that's logical, with Pink farther from the front line.

Also, I've tried to work out when SF will be able to whip out a settler. Assuming we want a double whip from 7 to 5, then is will take 12 turns (8 to grow, 4 turns of production and a whip). That assumption is based on T-Hawk's statement that you never want to whip away a grass miner. That's much slower than triple whipping a second settler from Green Acres, especially if you take the distance to travel into account.

Whipping away a grass miner is not quite "never"; it can be done if the situation is urgent enough. Just know that it results in serious hammer loss by the time the whipped laborer is regrown. Triple whipping SF from 7 to 4 is acceptable, especially if done late in the size-7 growth cycle so it goes back to 5 right away. I'm not sure if that works out better than a second triple whip from Green Acres.

[mostly-harmless]

I took the liberty to move the HA that was guarding the Imperio scouting Chariot towards CT since Imperio moved their chariot the same way.

The plan is to lightbulb Philosophy with the Great Scientist in 3 turns, right? So we should park our research at something else. How about Paper (seeing how PAL does not want to trade with us anymore).

I suggested the epts spending a while ago, without any feedback. I set 3epts towards Templars. That will see us increasing the gap between their current epts and the threshold to see our research.

I vote Pike as the next build in Pink Dot. It's not that we hold back massive gold reserves to fuel emergency upgrades.

Btw. If we lose the Colossus to Banana we can bite ourselves for giving them copper.

I have no preference for Syme.

And in case it got not noticed, PAL switched to Pacifism and Caste System. Together with The Parthenon we can see some Great Person action soon. However it must cost them a fortune on their military maintenance.

mh

[Sullla]

The plan is to lightbulb Philosophy with the Great Scientist in 3 turns, right? So we should park our research at something else.

No, it's not actually. We talked it over in the Tech thread and concluded that with a total discounted cost of almost 50%, lightbulbing Philosophy would be a waste. Philosophy will be cheap enough that we can research it ourselves, and maybe even trade it around for something else.

T-Hawk, I'll log into the game and cancel the road order for Helmholtz, to make sure I don't screw up again next turn.

Also, we have a nice new email from Banana where they tell us that PAL has decided to go after Music first before Education. Expect PAL to grab the Great Artist and trigger a Golden Age. (Bad as this is long-term, it's still better than Imperio or Templars getting Music and bombing one of our border cities.)

[sooooo]

The plan is to lightbulb Philosophy with the Great Scientist in 3 turns, right? So we should park our research at something else. How about Paper (seeing how PAL does not want to trade with us anymore).

We changed our minds to self-research philosophy (see tech thread).

[Zeviz]

EDIT: Looks like two people said the same thing while I was reading other threads.

[mostly-harmless]

(Slaps head)
I remember now. Too many posts, too many threads.

Are you offering Engineering to Banana in game, Sullla?

mh

[Sullla]

Did we agree on that? I can't recall what we offered Banana, to be honest. Someone please log into the game and do so, if that's what we said.

[mostly-harmless]

Hmm, seems like it was not included in any of our recent eMails. So we don't do it then.

mh

[sooooo]

We offered to supply them it early and they said they would accept it. Also, as I pointed out in the Banana thread, it would encourage them to part with guilds before we have finished nationalism.

[mostly-harmless]

Will offer it to them in-game.

mh

[Dreylin]

Re: insane Wonder building.

We know that Imperio have 3 Monuments, and Pal probably do as well so I expect that one of them will be building the Statue of Zeus soon. I guess we hope Pal get there first?

Templars are probably building Shwedagon Paya - we all know they're religion-crazed, so probably want Free Religion. (Templars have Gold from Imperio, right?)

[sunrise089]

I doubt Templars will go free religion - no state religion seems against the role-playing goals.

I will be interested to see if PAL really does use their artist on a golden age. It will be a hard thing for MP guys to resist the culture bomb button.

[mostly-harmless]

IMperio has monuments in all their cities from Stonehenge.

mh

[Dreylin]

Imperio has monuments in all their cities from Stonehenge.

mh

Oh yeah, D'uh!

Still think they're going for SoZ