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  • Sounds good. Can somebody write up and translate the message?

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    • Yep, keep pushing them diplomatically. Even if we get a bunch of "no" answers, that reveals a lot about their plans too.

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      • I sent a simple chase-up email this morning as I don't have time today for anything more sophisticated:

        Hi Imperio,

        We're still waiting for a reply from you on these topics; it's been 11 days since your last message. We would like a response (positive or negative) by the end of January.

        Best Regards

        Swiss Pauli

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        • Just a general comment:
          I know we want to speed up our diplo responses, but can we arrange it, tat we see the message before it goes out?

          mh

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          • Originally posted by mostly-harmless View Post
            Just a general comment:
            I know we want to speed up our diplo responses, but can we arrange it, tat we see the message before it goes out?
            If I'm going to look after the diplomacy then, no, I won't be putting forward the text of every message for team approval as experience has proven that it simply takes too long to get a quorum of responses, and agree a final text.

            In cases where the message content is highly sensitive/important I'll always submit these for approval.

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            • an this one...
              Last edited by Swiss Pauli; January 30, 2009, 16:17. Reason: oopsla

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              • deleted
                Last edited by Swiss Pauli; January 30, 2009, 16:17. Reason: ooops

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                • Wrong thread, Swiss.

                  mh

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                  • Just a note that Imperio failed to reply to my chase up message before the 31 Jan deadline.

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                    • I think we should try one final time to try and get Math from Imperio:

                      Would you be interested in trading Mathematics (357) for Aesthetics (429) and Literature (286)? We are willing to offer a great deal in beakers.

                      Or something like that. Worst they can do is say no, right? Obviously it would really help us out if we could go straight to Horseback Riding/Construction as our next techs.

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                      • Send this message with a translation. They'll probably refuse, but we can try.

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                        • It is too good a deal to offer Imperio, I think. They are GNP leader after all.

                          mh

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                          • How about

                            ¿Estarían interesado en darnos Matemáticas (357) para la Estética (429) y la literatura (286)? Estamos dispuestos a ofrecer mucho en "beakers"

                            That was from babelfish with my edits. Man it's been awhile since i spoke spanish :-)

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                            • Originally posted by mostly-harmless View Post
                              It is too good a deal to offer Imperio, I think. They are GNP leader after all.

                              But is it better for us to sit on Aesthetics and get nothing further out of it? We can spend the next six turns researching Math - a tech, I should add, that every civ worth a darn in this game already has - and getting even further out of the trading loop. Or, we can can try to use Aesthetics/Literature, our one and only trade chit at the moment, to get something out of it.

                              I know, I don't like trading with Imperio either! But we've got to get more out of our research than just one exchange with PAL. Ideally, we trade Aesthetics/Literature to every team and get something in return, like Templars just did with Metal Casting. If we were to get Math from Imperio, and then Metal Casting from Templars, think how much better off our position would be!

                              They'll probably reject the offer anyway, but I would like to float the idea at the very least. Then we could go right onto HBR and trade it to PAL right when they get Civil Service, thereby staying with the tech leaders. Isn't it worth a shot?

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                              • I agree with Sullla, every turn we spend researching "duplicate" techs is another 2 turns we fall behind - one for the tech and another for the tech we could have been researching.

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