The Glory of War

[=OttomusCeasar=]

For Celts, I've decided to be a tribe called the Jibbers. We speak the common language but mangle our words so bad that almost no one can understand us (almost exactly like the Scots) so people refer to our dialect as Jibberish.

PS- If we had gone with the Chinese I would have leaned toward the tribal name of Ghengols who would host Ghengolian BarBQues after every victory. (Named after GhengisFarb Suck up points! Can I get a 20% discount on my auction bids now?)

[Ennet]

LOL!! anywya when we getting the civgroup thingy?!? we should run some polls for ruler and stuff etc. cya all around, mebbe would be nice with another chat one day!! I dun know about celtic tribes so i'll guess i'll start my own, anyone wanna join the McEnnet clan?

[Ennet]

opps saw it's up nice icon btw approve me donegeal

[Donegeal]

This was how I originally wrote the matters of who votes on what:

C. Matters that get voted on.

1. Great Leaders.
2. City Names (High Council only).
3. Appointment of High Kings (High Council Only).
4. No-Confidence (High Council Only).
   a. Anybody (Emperor, High King, King and Lords) can make a call of No-Confidence of any elected or appointed Official.
   b. Must coinside with a person to take the place of deposed official.
   - Emperors cannot take the place of High Kings and vise versa.
   - Example: "I call a vote of No-Confidence on blah-blah and blah-blah to take his place!
5. War and Peace.
6. What we research.
7. Forgien trade deals with Human Civs.
8. Unforseen matters (High Council Only).
   - to include matter of Law.

This, obviously will no longer work. These are just some examples of what we will be voting on. Please give some input as I don't want to feel like I am ramming things down your throats. Give me your opinions.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I wonder if we will have people "join" the Glory of War just to get our icon by their name?

[Panzer32]

Please give some input as I don't want to feel like I am ramming things down your throats. Give me your opinions.

In my opinion, the emperor/high king/whatever we call our leader should decide what we vote on and if we do vote. This does not create an impossible beaurocracy where every small matter gets voted on. One may argue that this gives the emperor too much power, but thats what the no-confidence vote is for. The emperor is held accountable with the threat of being replaced.

[korn469]

Panzer32

i respectfully disagree with you, just as i have with donegeal in the past, and here is my reasoning

*everyone on this team knows that we are playing a team game, and they accept that this means there will be more beaurocracy than either a multiplayer succession game or a normal multiplayer game

*everyone on this teams deserves to participate in the game, if you can't participate then why even play?

*without clearly defined rules some people will abuse their positions, and it could get to the point where a nocon vote is pointless because even if you do replace the person in power, whoever takes over next will do the same thing

we can have votes and team participation without making our system unworkable, what need need to do is to give the mundane matters to elected officials and make the big choices the things we vote on

here is what i would have the team vote on

*government changes (high council)
*what science to research (house of kings)
*trades with human civs (hc)
*war and peace (with both AI(hok) and human civs(hc))
*wonders (hok)
*what to do with great leaders (hc)
*our mobilization status (hok)
*authorization for the emperor to overrule somebody's build queue (hok)
*nocon votes (hc)
*election of the emperor (hc)
*approval of the emperor's ministers (hok)
*declare a temporary state of emergency that grants the emperor more powers and a temporary immunity from nocon votes (hc)

other than adding in a finance and treasury minister and making the military minister optional (the emperor is commander in chief but he can delegate if he wishes) it looks pretty good too me

[Inverse Icarus]

wait, so all of the warlods have an equal say in the government? well, thats depressing

[korn469]

wait, so all of the warlods have an equal say in the government?

not exactly, votes in the house of kings depend on the population of your city, and since the emperor gets the capital plus his normal cities it gives him an advantage and encourages politics

really, besides trying to appeal to some kind of barbaric, feudal machismo...
...which is bs anyways, the most successful armies have always been professional armies supported by advanced societies...for example the individual native american warriors were individually much better than the individual US army soldier, but they didn't have the logistics or command structure to even mount a successful guerilla war...
...why shouldn't we try to involve all the people on the team in the game? i mean if only one person makes all of the decisions for the entire team is that really going to make being on this team more fun for everyone?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Hey, guys good news! I'm getting my but KICKED in the Domestic Minister election for the Civ3 Demo Game!

That means I'll have all kinda free time to waste over here.

Who is going to be our first leader to play the game? Do I need to make a custom leaderhead set for our civ?

What is our civ name going to be, and what are we going to name our first city?

[Inverse Icarus]

take it to the other form

http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=167

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Hey, guys good news! I'm getting my but KICKED in the Domestic Minister election for the Civ3 Demo Game!

Sorry if I had anything to do with it. I guess that I might have been a detriment to your campaign by supporting you and posting such controversial comments about ET. I actually have to say that I am almost glad that you might loose because we already have to split Aggie as it looks like he is going to be the first prez of the NewCon in the SP DG.

[Zero]

so, GoW has chosen to go with celts? Why not japan or Aztec instead of celtic swordsmen? do you like the +1 mov on a gallic swordmen better? It does cost +20 shield more ya kno...

[Panzer32]

+1 movement can do wonders, especially on surprise (oops, did I say that?) attacks...

Thats why were playing as the Cs

[Arnelos]

I've played the Celts in single-player... that Gallic swordsman is NOT all it's cracked up to be... the additional EXPENSE, IMO, makes it actually less valuable than a stack of normal swordsmen.

The most powerful thing about playing the Celts is the Militaristic+Religious traits... best traits if you're playing for early REX and warmongering. However, I agree with Calc II that Japan is the better civ with those traits because of the better UU.

But hey, that's just my opinion...