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  • #46
    There it goes again...

    Makes you feel for the world's leaders, doesn't it?

    This is the "good relations" thread, guys.
    The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

    Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Master Zen
      Not when you were blasting the rest of the world on sending Vox iron. A hostile act by GS was then perceived as anything that would hinder your war effort. So now when you blatantly hinder ours you refrain from considering a hostile act? Double-standard if you ask me, you know quite well what a hostile act is.
      MasterZen,

      You forget that Glory of War and Spain were not yet in-game at war
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Theseus
        There it goes again...

        Makes you feel for the world's leaders, doesn't it?

        This is the "good relations" thread, guys.
        Hey I just signed the disclaimer... don't look at me!

        Arnelos: we declared war on you in public, that's counts IMO.
        A true ally stabs you in the front.

        Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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        • #49
          Man, is that telling...

          Anybody got a definition of "declaration of war" in this game? In game, out of game, private PMs, public forum, etc.?



          Aaaaand, chiming in from the Cake or Death corner:

          "A f*ckin' jihad on you!"
          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Master Zen
            Not when you were blasting the rest of the world on sending Vox iron. A hostile act by GS was then perceived as anything that would hinder your war effort. So now when you blatantly hinder ours you refrain from considering a hostile act? Double-standard if you ask me, you know quite well what a hostile act is.
            If GoW troops were already engaged in combat and GoW lives were at stake if you didn't get troops to the front in time, I would view the situations as parallel.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Theseus
              This is the "good relations" thread, guys.
              Which is why I'm trying to debate in a polite, civilized way.

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              • #52
                G'night from me, folks.

                I might have to join Team Sunshine... I love all of you. :sob: :sob:

                (until you are DEAD! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!)
                The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by nbarclay


                  If GoW troops were already engaged in combat and GoW lives were at stake if you didn't get troops to the front in time, I would view the situations as parallel.
                  We were at war Nathan, unable to engage because there were no troops to engage. Our declaration of war was posted. As for GoW lives at stake that's just another case of self-justification and you can go around and around the issue but ultimately leading to the inescapable fact that it was a hostile act, even by your definitions.

                  But oh well, we can argue this forever... we can argue it wasn't parallel because we were standing on a jungle tile and GS had been in desert, or that we were using Riders instead of Med Infs, or simply the one that I guess is the most obvious, we are GoW and you are GS, and GS by defintion does not commit hostile acts.



                  anyway, I think this is the wrong thread to argue things...
                  A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Master Zen
                    anyway, I think this is the wrong thread to argue things...
                    You took out the words from my mouth. Go back to your trash talking threads!


                    Oh, and Theseus:
                    "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                    --George Bernard Shaw
                    A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                    --Woody Allen

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                    • #55
                      Nice idea Shiber..but dont sign me up.
                      IMO, some posts deserve to flamed.

                      I recall a RP member called ND Nazis.
                      I also remember GoW calling RP Hitler.

                      Some posters need to be brought back in line.

                      In recent events, we have a team who repeats over and over and over again, that they will win this game using an honour code that puts them above every other team.
                      When really, they are opportunistic as the rest of us.
                      The GS honour code aint worth spitting on, and GoW's mistake, was to believe that they would honour the spirit of their agreements.

                      Had GoW an agreement with "Mr Loophole" himself (aka Togas) we would of half expected some sort of backstab. For example, when it was suddenly dawning on RP that GoW may go to war with them, they hastily tried to negotaite a NAP. Even with our riders advancing towards their lines, they still tried to screw us by inserting a paragraph that required GoW to acknowledge that RP had legal ownership to half the continent. We expect this from RP. It is how they have been treating us for most of the game. It is one of the many reasons why we attacked. I would rather not play a game where I have to spend a whole evening studying proposals for any clauses.

                      Anyway .. I want to have the right to flame every GS member that deems it necessary to bring up their honour code yet again and again and again.

                      {edit - sorry .. I will repost this is the flame thread}

                      Last edited by Hot_Enamel; July 31, 2003, 02:02.
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                      • #56
                        @ Hot Enamel.
                        You are right in so far as I would never accept it from anyone neither in joke nor elsewhere to call me a Nazi because that is the least thing I am. Though I'm proud to be a german and are not afraid to show that. It's just my belive that anyone from anywhere has the right to be proud of the nation he is from.

                        Does that mean i have to flame that person.

                        I don't think so.

                        Step one: I would kindly ask this person to stopp that.
                        he dosn't care?
                        Step two: I woud tell him that he is wrong and that I'm not going to accept that.
                        he still insists?
                        Step three: I'd adress him that I'dont like it and that he should please go and **** himself.
                        he is still on his toes.
                        Step four: I'll ignore him. In a forum no one can force you in a conflict you don't want.

                        The comunity will see who's wrong and who's not. no need to flame.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
                          In recent events, we have a team who repeats over and over and over again, that they will win this game using an honour code that puts them above every other team.
                          When really, they are opportunistic as the rest of us.
                          The GS honour code aint worth spitting on, and GoW's mistake, was to believe that they would honour the spirit of their agreements.
                          Well, perhaps it was all one big giant ruse and propaganda tool. And guess what? We were all duped!!!

                          Congrats, Team Benedict Arn...err... Gathering Storm, you are definitely the team which has fooled us all for the most time.
                          A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
                              In recent events, we have a team who repeats over and over and over again, that they will win this game using an honour code that puts them above every other team.
                              When really, they are opportunistic as the rest of us.
                              The GS honour code aint worth spitting on, and GoW's mistake, was to believe that they would honour the spirit of their agreements.

                              Had GoW an agreement with "Mr Loophole" himself (aka Togas) we would of half expected some sort of backstab. For example, when it was suddenly dawning on RP that GoW may go to war with them, they hastily tried to negotaite a NAP. Even with our riders advancing towards their lines, they still tried to screw us by inserting a paragraph that required GoW to acknowledge that RP had legal ownership to half the continent. We expect this from RP. It is how they have been treating us for most of the game. It is one of the many reasons why we attacked. I would rather not play a game where I have to spend a whole evening studying proposals for any clauses.

                              Anyway .. I want to have the right to flame every GS member that deems it necessary to bring up their honour code yet again and again and again.

                              {edit - sorry .. I will repost this is the flame thread}

                              You seem to neglect the fact that GoW has broken every single deal that GoW has ever made with GS, save one. GoW was suggesting that they should also delay on fulfilling that deal for Chivalry as well, but perhaps GoW thought they might have need of GS soon, so that one was completed. However, GoW still broke the first half of that deal, so I guess it is only one half of a deal they did not break.

                              Now, GoW has violated an NAP as well, or maybe they think we did. OK. Chalk up one-half to GS, and one-half to GoW. I think the score is still rather unbalanced.

                              Some people expect GS to treat a team that never upheld a single deal with us as we would any other? I think that something is wrong with that picture.

                              Go ahead. Reserve the right to flame, just wear your asbestos.
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                              • #60
                                Funny how arguments from one thread get carried over into another thread...bygones won't be bygones till this war is over; well except for my FAMily!

                                BTW, should GF get a PCR for all the 'deleted' posts he's made? He sure has a habit for going back and getting rid of the evidence; how sad.

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