Letter of JEFF BRIGGS to the CIV COMMUNITY

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Coracle


That is the old "Pay - and keep your mouth shut" argument. It is totally specious.

I am not an english major, but totally is and adjective and so is specious. Adjectives are used for nouns and other substantive terms. So your sentence is not even a valid one. The statement can be either specious or not specious.

[aahz_capone]

good going vmxa!
ctrl alt del that sucker!

[Cian McGuire]

To be technical...

"Totally" is an adverb, and adverbs can be used to modify the adjective "specious" in a proper sentance .

[woody]

Originally posted by Wittlich
I concur with your analysis centrifuge. I too believe that Firaxis will not follow in the same foot steps as Activision.

I wouldn't be to sure about that. Infogrames appears to have 1.5 feet in the grave. Check out finance.yahoo.com and read the horror stories about their financial woes. If/when they go belly-up, Firaxis's money stream will be cut off (Infogrames or the bankrupcy holdings will get the revenue from Civ3 sales). Firaxis is not going to work on patches for free.

I think it's foolish to buy PtW with the hope that it will eventually be patched to an acceptable quality. Wait a few months, and pick it up if it ever gets fixed properly.

[woody]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Firaxis owes you squat. You have not spent a dime on PTW. You are a troll, like many of the other trolls who have crawled out of the wood work.

Sigh... fanboys.

Firaxis might not owe a customer anything monetary, if the store accepts refunds (many do not). But, if they want to salvage any kind of reputation at all, they do owe customers an apology and a reversal of their dismal release and patch performance.

So far, they keep proving the Firaxis-bashers are right, again, and again...

[Capt Dizle]

I would second Marione's opinions pretty much across the board.

The PTW release seems like the low point for this company and I am glad they finally have decided to look PR up in the dictionary.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by woody
But, if they want to salvage any kind of reputation at all, they do owe customers an apology and a reversal of their dismal release and patch performance.

Dismal patch performance? How many patches do you want them to release? Do you want buggy patches released NOW?


How old are you Woody? Is it necessary to start every comment with a shot at the people who enjoy the game?

[DilithiumDad]

The single-player changes are nice, especially how they combine to relieve the tedium that formerly characterized the late Industrial Age. However, I still feel ripped off as multiplayer was the reason I bought PTW. I am currently playing a game as the Koreans in the Modern Age and have not gotten my Golden Age yet despite many battles with my special unit and completion of many Scientific Great Wonders. I hope this gets fixed!!

[redgabber]

I think the new patch will be include with the european version ... that's good.
there is delay, it is perhaps because of that

[Killerdaffy]

Originally posted by DilithiumDad
The single-player changes are nice, especially how they combine to relieve the tedium that formerly characterized the late Industrial Age. However, I still feel ripped off as multiplayer was the reason I bought PTW. I am currently playing a game as the Koreans in the Modern Age and have not gotten my Golden Age yet despite many battles with my special unit and completion of many Scientific Great Wonders. I hope this gets fixed!!

You need to satisfy both trait requirements to get a Golden Age from Wonders, meaning you need a Scientific and a Commercial one in case of the Koreans.

On topic: I like the work on SP (just like another patch, really) but think PtW not worth the money until they fix MP.

[MarkG]

I am glad they finally have decided to look PR up in the dictionary

i continue to be amazed by some people's need for PR(=Public Relations)

if they wanted CS(=Customer Satisfaction, a just-made-up-by-MarkG term) i'd understand it

but PR is useless at the end of the day. PR doesnt remove bugs from my game...

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by MarkG
PR doesnt remove bugs from my game...

It does turn the 'bugs' into 'features', though.

[redgabber]

hi, i m a developper too... don't worry. your game is great i think your game was unfinished. there is a commercial pressure i think.
commercial is not a developper task. it's a political one.
so, don't worry and debug....
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[vmxa1]

Cian McGuire you are correct, that is what I get for doing things so late at night or early in the morning.

[woody]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Dismal patch performance? How many patches do you want them to release? Do you want buggy patches released NOW?

By dismal performance, I'm referring to a horrible initial release, 2 lousy patches that broke as many things as they fixed, and a full 9 months until they finally released a good version. If the game wasn't ready to be released (and it clearly wasn't), they should have waited until it was ready.

How old are you Woody? Is it necessary to start every comment with a shot at the people who enjoy the game?

What shot? I happen to very much enjoy Civ 1.29f. It's a very good game. Perhaps you should take off your fanboy glasses and see that not everyone who criticizes Firaxis hates Civ. (That was a shot, but clearly you deserve the favor in return.)