Civ3 EXPANSION PACK!!!!

[Jamski]

What worries me, is advailability in Europe, I mean it was months after the US release before I could get civ3 in Germany, and I finally got the US (import) version, which is cool, although post patch the editor is half in German and half in US English which is weird, anyway if anyone knows a good (cheap) way of getting XP import within a week of release in South Germany, I for one, would be very interested to hear from them

-Jam

[Cesa]

Originally posted by War of Art
What worries me, is advailability in Europe, I mean it was months after the US release before I could get civ3 in Germany, and I finally got the US (import) version, which is cool, although post patch the editor is half in German and half in US English which is weird, anyway if anyone knows a good (cheap) way of getting XP import within a week of release in South Germany, I for one, would be very interested to hear from them

-Jam

The german version is translated right? I guess that's why it takes so long for it to get released. It seems that you are ok with buying it in english, so I suggest you buy it from another EU country, the shipping will probably be cheaper and faster within EU.

In Sweden the games usually are released pretty soon after the US release, I guess it's the same for all EU contries that doesn't translate the games.

[Jamski]

Cesa - do you have an Address for these Swedish guys. I should try to get the US Xp to match what I have. Don't wanna cause any problems with mixed versions...

-Jam

[Powerslave]

I think Fireaxis and many other companys hold back many of the features in the original package for an excuse to sell the game again with the 'new' features. That is smart and creative marketing and we the consumers as the suckers we are will pay for the new expansion pack anyway.

With that said... yes regrettably I am one of those suckers and I will probably buy the expansion pack.

[star mouse]

You could always wait a month or two before buying the XP, when it is likely to be cheaper.

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by Powerslave
I think Fireaxis and many other companys hold back many of the features in the original package for an excuse to sell the game again with the 'new' features. That is smart and creative marketing and we the consumers as the suckers we are will pay for the new expansion pack anyway.

With that said... yes regrettably I am one of those suckers and I will probably buy the expansion pack.

I am also one who just has to buy expansion packs. I may be a student and to an extent, a socialist, but I'm not a tightass, and I want the best gaming experience possible. If that means forking over $AU49.95 for an expansion set, so be it.

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by star mouse
You could always wait a month or two before buying the XP, when it is likely to be cheaper.

That's the attitude I had about SMAX. But look what happened. By the time I was ready to buy it... IT VANISHED WITHOUT A TRACE!!! Due to that experience, I rush over to buy XPs nearly as soon as they're released. This is because in a month or two, they might no longer be available.

[Venger]

Originally posted by LaRusso

wow, venger is back with a vengeance
good to know that there IS a game that passes his stringent tests. i did not doubt it's the same game that have put me to sleep many many times...

Well, what I noticed about SMAC was - first, that Civ3 blatantly piggybacked the game engine. I mean blatantly. I bet if you could ever pull the source you'd have the proof that 50% was lifted clean.

Next - options. So many options. There are four options for social engineering in 4 categories. And that's after choosing one of what, 8 factions? So, you have 256 basic options. That's kicks the high holy hell out of the joke Civ3 ruling options.

Next - more options. Units have so many more options than in Civ3. Yikes almighty.

Next - smooth. The game WORKS smoothly. Menus are quick, clean, to the point. Civ3 is bloatware.

Alas, I didn't come in here to compare the two of them. Just to see what the lackeys think of the 'expansion pack', which ought to rightfully be called Civ3 1.0 (I thought the patch was, but it ain't...).

Venger

[Spock]

bloatware.

ewwww...bloat.

[kring]

Cost $40-50 Likely

I am guessing the cost will be more like $40-50 US. Also, likely it will not be a stand alone program. And if it is stand alone, then most definitely $50.

Why haven't we heard from Firaxis, since they do visit here frequently? Neither have they been seen at CF last time it was up. Leastwise in responding to comments about the new release.


If there were one or more new traits, I doubt they would give free anything as major as improvements. Cheaper builds for certain improvements.

I bought Civ 3 based on all these great reviews from gaming mags, not knowing the truth about such reviews.

The exception to the rule is a fallacy BTW. Otherwise, there would have to be an exception to that exception, creating a paradox.

Firaxis has been less than forthcoming about a lot to the point of being misleading at best, encouraging bad feelings among those of us who spent $30-50 or more for their product.

As has been asked before, why not tell us MP would cost extra?

[Hurricane]

Seafaring sounds as a reasonable trait. Maybe reduced cost for harbors and +1 to sea movement. Could have a big impact on those Galley rushes over the seas.

[markusf]

Originally posted by MarkG
* MarkG tries to remember the last time in gaming history a patch added multiplayer abilities

Heros of might and magic 4.

[MarkG]

As has been asked before, why not tell us MP would cost extra?

can you answer a question about the cost of a product that you dont know if it will exist?

[MarkG]

Heros of might and magic 4

the only downloads i see on the official site are 2 wallpapers

http://www.3do.com/mightandmagic/heroes4/downloads.html

[marc420]

Don't encourage game companies to rip you off!

If you want to put an end to this foolishness where...

a) a game so buggy as to be almost unplayable is rushed out the door for Christmas. Lots of idiots buy it. (including one family member who gave it to me as a gift).

b) three to four months later they finally get the game patched to the point where it doesn't crash constantly on my otherwise very stable computer system.

c) then, they announce that they want another big chunk of money from everyone to pay for

1) 'features' like multiplayer that are consider standard in the rest of the gaming industry.
2) some new civilizations that sound like mods you can either download off the internet or create yourself if you've just been dying to play some civ that isn't in the game.

So what, are you going to run out and chuck another $30 to this company for stuff that should have been in the original game and stuff that you could download off the internet.

Firaxis has been treating its customers like some warmed over cow-patty throughout Civ3. And if you want any respect from them or any decent treatment from them in the future, then what needs to happen is that when they release this patch, absolutely no one buys it.

Let them sit there during the day and get reports back that they sold maybe 5 copies of this patch (and I say patch cause that's really what this is), then maybe they'll sit back and start rethinking what they are doing.

If you all run out like a bunch of sheep and hand them your money, then they'll laugh, pat themselves on the back, and then start planning on how to rip you off even more in Civ4.

Maybe they'll take the whole Diplomacy section out of the first release of Civ4 and make you buy an expansion pack to get it later on next time.

Send Firaxis a message, don't buy this Expansion Pack