Easygoing C3C PBEM game

[Paddy]

cheers mate

onto Andy

[Andydog]

Hope everyone had a nice break.

Paddy, what is your take on the patch issues? I saw you were testing a few things with Rommel2D. Am I right in assuming that you can play v1.15 PBEM's on v1.22 so long as the SAV has no information in it about Radio? If so I would assume we wouldn't have any trouble playing our current games in v1.22, as we are nowhere near Radio?

(turn away)

[Mickeyj]

Off to shogun ------->

[Shogun Gunner]

of v1.22

over to Paddy!

[Paddy]

hey what is wrong there Gunner...

I have 12 PBEMs in v1.22

some were created in v1.22, some were upgraded to it.

I have seen that if a game is not upgraded to v1.22, then it will never be able to upgrade to the new patches...

onto Andy

[Andydog]

Hmmm. What to do then? Continue with 1.15?

--> Mickeyj

[Mickeyj]

Gone to shogun

[Shogun Gunner]

Paddy, are you very confident that we will have no problems with the patch?

I'll go with the majority.

Over to Paddy.

[Paddy]

not confident, but enjoying it in other games

onto Andy

[Mickeyj]

I don't mind upgrading, there don't seem to be any other players in the forums having problems.

Off to shogun----->

[Andydog]

I've yet to see a v1.15 PBEM game that DOESN'T work in v1.22.

alexman has said quite a few times that:

A game upgrades to 1.22 if it uses modified rules (which are stored in the save file), or if it has no Radio information.

As none of us have researched Radio yet, one would assume that there is no information about it in our v1.15 sav file. Therefore we should be able to upgrade to v1.22 and get the benefit of the PBEM bugs being removed.

I don't mind either way though - I am happy to stick with v1.15 if that's what we all want. I know there are issues with that version of the game involving others being able to view your civ, but that to me just spoils the excitement and sense of accomplishment.

Paddy, you mentioned that you’d seen somewhere that v1.22 saves won’t be able to upgrade to any future patches – where did this come from? If this is indeed the case then it is probably best to wait until Firaxis announces their intentions before upgrading.

Curse these patch fuk-ups!



Edit: I've asked here at what point in the game is Radio information introduced into the sav.

[Shogun Gunner]

Over to Paddy.

Well, yes, that's an annoying bug that allows you to see the landmass of the previous player. Also, I learned long ago, to exit Civ complete from each game -- before loading the next. That's real annoying each morning before I head off to work - with limited time to play my turns.

I haven't been able to follow the latest news regarding the patch. I hope to avoid a second installation of civ for a different patch version. None of my other PBEMs are using 1.22 yet. That all being said, I'll go over when you guys are ready.

[Mickeyj]

Shogun, what's your reason for exiting civ completely before reloading the next PBEM?

[Shogun Gunner]

it will load the wrong turn for the next game...it asks for the password of one of the other players

[Andydog]

I don't experience that problem Shogun. For example, when I check my email in the morning before work (usually while eating Bovril on toast and sipping my tea ) I'll drag all newly received PBEM saves from outlook into my PBEM folder shortcut on desktop, then load C3C, then choose Load Game, play the first game, exit into the main screen, load the 2nd game, etc, until all saves have been played. I then exit out of C3C completely and email the new saves. I've never had a problem doing it this way.

Back to the patch debacles, alexman confirms here that he’s fairly sure radio isn't introduced into the save until one of us actually begins to research it.

So I downloaded the patch, created a triple install of C3C *sigh*, and tried loading the latest turn of our Easygoing game in v1.22.

It didn’t work. But it did work okay in v1.20.

Sooo… I guess the options are now these:[list=1][*]Dual install v1.20 and v1.22 – use v1.20 for our current v1.15 PBEM’s only, v1.22 for new PBEM’s and all other games.[*]Continue playing v1.15 until Firaxis get their ****e together and release a patch that will fix everything for once and for all.[/list=1] Again, I don’t give a monkey’s what we do, but suspect that if we’re in other v1.15 games then option 2 will be the winner.