Civ3 - Diplogame?

[OzzyKP]

Yea grandpa, please give it a shot. Its definitely the way to go for these games.

[Tokah]

Do you guys have room for one more?

[Ljube]

Sure. The more the merrier.

[Rasputin]

just so all that add their interest here know, this type of game requires a lot of preplanning and the start date as of yet is an unknown period.


please be patient as their are a lot of things to get agreement on .

[Grandpa Troll]

ok lets be making preperations and plans

[OzzyKP]

Map - World 100x100 Posted earlier.
Difficulty - Monarch

Civ traits/unique units:
Raz - No
Ozzy - Yes
Granpa Troll - Yes
Ljube - Yes
Metaliturtle - ?
Dylan Baker - ?
Tokah - ?

List all the times you can/can't make a game:
Raz - Any
Ozzy - Friday nights and any time on Saturday (US) work best for me.
Granpa Troll - ?
Ljube - Saturday
Metaliturtle - ?
Dylan Baker - ?
Tokah - ?

Civ:
Raz - Israel
Ozzy - India (or S. Africa, depending)
Grandpa Troll - China
Ljube - Russia
Metaliturtle - ?
Dylan Baker - ?
Tokah - ?

Metaliturtle PMed me to say he is having trouble with his computer/game, I'm not sure he'll be able to make this game. I haven't heard from Dylan Baker in a while either.

If we end up going with Raz, Grandpa Troll, Ljube, me & Tokah, I'll recommend Tokah to be in Western Europe, and I'll switch to S. Africa so as not to crowd Asia.

[OzzyKP]

Though of course we do have different concerns with civ traits and UUs in a Diplogame because of geopolitics. I'll probably end up moving to S. Africa just because there is space there, and I'll end up with Zulu, whose traits and UU seem entirely unsuited for a diplogame.

Also, if Raz wants to be Israel, well there isn't an Israeli civ. So... I could just rename the Babylonians, and change their starting spot and city list. That shouldn't be too hard.

So yea, Raz is right that things could be unbalancing. (especially for those poor Zulu) but I still think it'll enrich the game, so I want to go for it.

ANother question to answer is victory conditions. Which of these do we want to allow?

Domination
Space Race
Diplomatic
Conquest
Cultural
Wonder

?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
ANother question to answer is victory conditions. Which of these do we want to allow?

Domination
Space Race
Diplomatic
Conquest
Cultural
Wonder

?

well..I would think..DIPLOMATIC

[Tokah]

Civ traits/unique units:
Tokah - Yes

List all the times you can/can't make a game:
Tokah - Can play anytime that isn't Saturday post 6pm EST

Civ:
Tokah - France

Edited to add: I'm in favor of all winning conditions besides Wonders, but Diplomatic or Cultural would probably be best.

[1889]

What is the status here? I've just discovered that I play all my civ games like a diplo game. This looks like it will be a bit slow for me though.

I'll be happy to help you get started though. Are you still looking for a map? I've never made one before, but I can give it a try. I can do any of the other modding you decide on as well.

Let me know if you can use my help.

[OzzyKP]

Ok, come right on in 1889. Welcome. We've got a map, we just need you to pick a time. I hope you don't mind being the Zulu.

Map - World 100x100 Posted earlier.
Difficulty - Monarch
Civ traits/unique units - Yes (sorry Raz)

List all the times you can/can't make a game:
Raz - Any
Ozzy - Friday nights and any time on Saturday (US) work best for me.
Granpa Troll - ?
Ljube - Saturday
Tokah - Saturday before 6 PM EST
1889 - ?

Civ:
Raz - Israel
Ozzy - India
Grandpa Troll - China
Ljube - Russia
Tokah - France
1889 - Zulu (I made an executive decision here, just cause that's where we've got room)

Victory conditions:
Raz - ?
Ozzy - Embarassingly, I don't know exactly what each one does, so I dunno which I'd want. Can someone post a crib sheet?
Grandpa Troll - Diplomatic
Ljube - ?
Tokah - All but Wonders
1889 - ?

Also, while the Zulu traits aren't the best for diplo (of course we've never tried it before, so who knows) they do have a lot more room than anyone else, so that's definitely a good thing)

Ok, we are pretty much ready to go. I think we've got our roster set. 6 players. 3 vet diplogamers, and 3 newbies. Very cool. Also, Grandpa, 1889, and Tokah, please join the Diplogame civ-group. We fought hard to have it, and I want people (especially new people) to join up.

So I think Saturday is the best day. What is the best time? We are dealing with three very different time zones here (ugh) so it'll be damn tricky to pull off. 1889 said anything before 6 pm EST. What does that mean for Australlia and Europe?

[OzzyKP]

Also, Grandpa Troll, 1889, and Tokah, I strongly urge you all to read through the diploFAQ, posted here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=101988

It may be geared for Civ2, but its has great insight into the game. Since this is the first diplo in Civ3, we are rewritting the handbook as we speak. Exciting! Also, please go to the bottom of the FAQ and check out some of the old games. That'll give you a very real look at how a diplo works.

[OzzyKP]

Ok, so unless I'm totally messing up the time zones here, let me take a stab at it. We start the session at 10 AM EST, which would be 4 PM (16:00) in Belgrade, and 12 AM (0:00) in Brisbane.

or if that's too late for you Raz, I could get up early and go for 9 am.. Remember though that for HOTW4, I was the one playing till like 3-4 in the morning. So now its your turn.

Am I right? Or no?

[1889]

I'm usually on from 15-24 GMT. You just need that for play order right?

Zulu are fine. If you mess with me I get to kick your ass right? Thats what Shaka would have done.

I say allow all victory conditions.

I've read through most of DiploFAQ. As I understand it we just play a normal game of Civ3 PBEM, except we try to write a story as our nation develops.

Why should I join the Diplo group?

[Grandpa Troll]

I could try to make it Saturday Mornings (I am at an N C State Football game tommorrow though)

How long do we usually play for?

Also where do we play?

Gamespy?

Just asking as that is where i am also a member and where I am playing CIVIII at now

ok

awaiting next line of questioning

Grandpa Troll